Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yehuda HaKohen

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. W.marsh 19:19, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yehuda HaKohen

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Yehuda HaKohen is described in the article as a political activist. He is not a noteworthy activist, he has not even been mentioned by the media (except for the fringe news website of Arutz Sheva, which mentioned his name a couple of times). His Google presence is almost exclusively due to Wikipedia and its forks (note that there are other unrelated people with the same name that appear in the Google search). Naturally, this article does not reference any reliable sources. Its only references are to the said Arutz Sheva website, most of which don't even mention HaKohen, and to his movement's website. See also Elie Yossef below. Doron 09:01, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

• Strong Speedy Keep: Arutz Sheva is of course not a fringe website like mistakingly claimed by Doron, but actually a large news station serving a large % of people in Israel, mainly the religious population which is relatively very large. Since the article is full of references and seems well written, and since there is an article on Magshimey Herut and of course Arutz Sheva which this person seems to be a leader and spokesperson, then there are no grounds for deletion. Amoruso 14:45, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Note: Just to remind you all that Arutz Sheva was a pirate radio and ten of its operators were convicted. Besides that, no prominent Israeli journalist is associated with Arutz Sheva. Essentially, despite what Amoruso writes above, the Arutz Sheva website has no credentials whatsoever. And this is an article about a political activist who hasn't been mentioned by any news agency except for Arutz Sheva, so how can he be notable enough to warrant an article?--Doron 15:16, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Credentials ? Please don't insert your political opinions about Arutz Sheva into the discussion. The fact that Arutz Sheva belongs to the right wing sector, and religious sector of society doesn't make it illegal. As far as for piracy, this was a complex legal issue concerning Tender Law and Frequency allocation. Many of Israel's parliament and legal advisors were against closing it down at the time. Freedom of speech is one of the most important pillars of democracies and of Israel in specific, and this station serves hundreds of thoudsands of people. It has a legitimate base, it has very prominent broadcasters and public figures, which Doron might not be aware with his own original experience, and the fact this person is notable related as explained above of course makes void this request for delete. Amoruso 15:57, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

• Keep multiple sources are provided to establish notability. I haven't seen anywhere in Wikipedia policy a requirement that a source must include a country's prominent journalists. Alansohn 16:43, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Nor have i seen a requirement that only legally operated sources count. WP is neutral about such things. I have a strong dislike for nomination of sources where it appears the political point of view may be relevant in the nomination. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DGG (talk • contribs) 04:24, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

If there was an article about a leftist political activist who's only mentioned in Indymedia, I'd think the same thing. I know several leftist political activists who had much more exposure on mainstream Israeli media and still I don't think they deserve an article. There's nothing about this person that makes him noteworthy, activists like him are a dozen a dime.--Doron 10:15, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

• Strong Delete - HaKohen is non-notable in terms of Israeli politics or current affairs. I have never heard his name mentioned apart from on here despite being pretty ofé with Israeli politics. This article and other related ones (e.g. Zionist Freedom Alliance and Magshimey Herut) are far too detailed and I strongly suspect are being written by an insider (thus WP:COI). Number 57 11:06, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. He is a radio-speaker. Alithien 20:09, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep: Although I probably disagree with ZFA on many issues, I acknowledge that Yehuda HaKohen is well known among college students in the United States where ZFA organizes Zionist programs. I also think that because HaKohen's message adds a new element to the current debate on the Arab-Israeli conflict (the notion of Jewish rights as a leftwing political cause), it is important that WP include HaKohen's entry. It is also possible that HaKohen is more notale in the United States than in Israel--Divina SJ 05:50, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

If he is well known in colleges in the USA, it should be written in the article and sourced... Alithien 10:22, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

• Keep per Alansohn, sufficient sources are provided to establish notability per WP:BIO guidelines. RFerreira 06:40, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.