Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ybarra Elementary School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. --Coredesat 04:47, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ybarra Elementary School

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An editor suggested I take this to AfD, so I am doing so. Without the irrelevant details about current faculty, this "article" consists of a one-line description. Without sources or claims to notability it appears to be unable to be expanded beyond this. There are many things in the world that exist, but Wikipedia is not a catalog of them. Salad Days 02:48, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per nom, NN school. TJ Spyke 08:07, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
• Comment. It's stubby but if "Its' A.P.I. score was over 900 for 4 consecutive years." can be verified, I think it might be worth keeping. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:27, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep once again: ALL SCHOOLS are notable. The infancy of this article is not grounds for deletion. Allow the seed to grow. Jerry 21:52, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

If you look at the history of the editor who created the article, you might be less optimistic that it will grow, at least any time soon. I'm all for giving people time, but only if I've got some indication that there's someone out there who will actually improve the article. I see no evidence of that. What I see is a potential vandal magnet. It can always be recreated.Noroton 05:04, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, WjBscribe 01:00, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Delete: The concept that "all schools are notable" is a position held by a faction of editors that is neither enshrined, either explicitly or implicitly, in any policy or guideline, and that one of the hallmarks of this curious notion is that such articles be exempt from any standard of verification or attribution. It certainly isn't anything by which tacit eyerolling at how dense we are is merited. As far as this particular school goes, its claims are unsourced and unsupported, and it hasn't been worked on since its creation. RGTraynor 13:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. A school is subject to the exact same notability guidelines as anything else here on WP. Jerry, note that this article has been around for just about three months - it could have been expanded in that time. As an aside, the article is badly written - though, that's not a criteria for deletion unto itself, it's a criteria for cleanup. --Dennisthe2 02:41, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep if reliable sources can be provided regarding API scores before the close of this debate. Yamaguchi先生 03:24, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete WP:V failure, which leads to it not having WP:N--Dacium 04:06, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete unless sourcing was provided as per Yamaguchi's comment, in which case I'd change my vote. Noroton 05:01, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete: Per nom and above comments. A short one-line zinger. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 06:12, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Not noteable. Dalejenkins 08:22, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Noroton 15:27, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete There is no consensus at Wikipedia that all schools are or are not inherently notable, as evidenced by the many AfDs closed at "keep", "delete" and "no consensus". Since there is no special dispensation for school articles, they have to pass WP:A and WP:N to be retained, and this one does not. --Butseriouslyfolks 17:24, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete I believe all post-secondary schools are notable and that most secondary schools are as well. However, I believe few primary schools are. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 19:26, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete nn school, clear-cut case. DES ^(talk) 20:41, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, not suitable for WP in its current state. --Sn0wflake 22:59, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as failing the standards of notability to which all article subjects (schools included) are subject. The "API score" thing might be a point of notability, but it's unsourced at the moment. What does it mean, anyway? BigHaz - Schreit mich an 09:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, all efforts at coming up with consensus guidelines for school notability have failed to date. I tend to think that all colleges and universities will be able to meet the primary notability guidelines, but am extremely dubious about any "all" arguments for anything beyond that. This does not meet the primary notability criteria for articles, not to mention WP:ATT/WP:V, and as such, should be deleted. Xtifr _tälk 21:38, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Assume that more information can be added. Hmwith 10:03, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

• Comment: An encyclopedia with pretentious to accuracy and utility can't "assume" anything, and WP:ATT doesn't permit it. RGTraynor 02:57, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete: Just not notable, unsourced, too chatty (POV), too short, and too difficult to work with. Who is it named for? Is there any trivia related to the school? Does it meet the Google test? Has anyone notable ever graduated from this school? Does every school in the US have to be listed? Bearian 00:10, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. The article does not describes the subject. "Introduction" is poor and it should be rewritten (that means, the whole article should be rewritten). Meanwhile, it does not meet criteria for keeping. Rjgodoy 12:15, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.