Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yalla Ya Nasrallah

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. W.marsh 13:12, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yalla_Ya_Nasrallah

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Non notable and unencyclopedic Telecart 13:49, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

• Speedy Delete as attack page. That's all it really is. DarkAudit 14:28, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy delete Per WP:CSD#G10, attack page.The Sunshine Man 15:06, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy delete as an attack page. So tagged. Hut 8.5 16:28, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy delete at the very least, the lyrics would be a copyvio. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 19:19, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Why is this article non-notable and unencyclopedic, but The Hawk of Lebanon is notable and encyclopedic? --GHcool 19:37, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete that one too, more copyvio lyrics. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 19:50, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
    • If you want to speedy delete that one too, then make an AfD for that one and vote for it there. Don't put "Speedy delete" in bold twice on the same AfD page. --GHcool 20:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, notable song, coverage in Der Spiegel. Removed lyrics per WP:NOT a lyrics database. cab 22:25, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
• Weak Delete as apparently non-notable, also not a soapbox. It's been close to a year since this incident, so time to source this. I've tagged The Hawk of Lebanon for notability and will remove the lyrics, and will encourage editors to improve the references for that article, lest it share the fate of this one. I disagree strongly with the speedy requests. This appears to be an article about a piece of propaganda, who is it an attack on? - Aagtbdfoua 22:46, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep - changed vote above, per comments from Fedayee - Aagtbdfoua 23:13, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, the "The Hawk of Lebanon" too. I googled -wikipedia "yalla ya nasraallh" and it gave me 3,610 hits. Similar search for Hawk of Lebanon (I created that article) gave me 1,210 results including coverage from the CBC [1], ABC [2] and the Jewish Week [3]. We could remove the copyvio lyrics to improve the articles. - Fedayee 23:06, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - Agree this establishes the notability of The Hawk of Lebanon, but I don't see much mention of "Yalla Ya Nasrallah" in any of those three articles either. At least one more article would be nice to establish notability. - Aagtbdfoua 23:13, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. A non-notable song back up by a link to a Google video and one off-hand mention in a German newspaper. If information could be found that showed it charted or that it was extremely significant than it may make sense to keep it. Also, for those doing the Google test on "The Hawk of Lebanon", remember to do the search using the original Arabic title. --Abnn 04:50, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. It does seem notable. Copyvio has been removed. Abeg92contribs 17:12, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
• Comment - Just a note, I don't know what qualifies as calling something a 'popular' song, but this was an internet meme, not a pop song. It was never played on the radio or anything like that (I'm not sure that's true for the Hawk song though). In fact, I'd only heard about it recently, and I'm an Israeli, an avid internet connoisseur, and participated in a lot of the blogospheric debate around the 2006 Lebanon-Israel war. If I hadn't heard of it, to me that alone raises suspicion about it's notability.--Telecart 22:33, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete As per above. At the end of the day we are considering it as a piece of music, and by that yardstick, it simply is not notable enough for WP:Music. A1octopus 14:35, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
• Comment I'm not certain that this establishes notability, but the song was the subject of at least two articles (Hebrew language Ynet[4] & Maariv[5]), as well as on two major Israeli music sites ([6][7]). Cheers, Tewfik^Talk 07:24, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
• Keep until Hawk of Lebanon is deleted as well. Robbskey 13:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.