Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/XPeRT

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. nn, cannot find any RS to establish any notabilty. Aksi_great (talk) 17:07, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] XPeRT

XPeRT (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) Spam for product. All the reviews and the awards on the site are fake. The speed claims such as "93 wpm in a week" are obviously false. Horrible design from an ergonomic point view (only 30% on the home row). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.15.209.112 (talk • contribs) 2005-09-14 11:38:33

  • Keep as long as it is rewritten better. 64.251.182.80 02:27, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
  • From the XPeRT Keyboard inventor: The XPeRT Keyboard layout was invented as one option to free us from Qwerty. The Dvorak keyboard is another good option, but it is harder to learn, while maintaining Qwerty speeds too. Yes, not all frequent letters are on the home row on XPeRT, but that is not the dominant typing speed factor, proven to be key striking by alternate hands (opposing digraphs), as also incorporated by Dvorak. A study of keyboard patents and design confirms all of this. Note that the XPeRT Keyboard definition at the Wikipedia site is technical material - it includes no product claims or marketing data. (Just as an aside, the reviews and awards are not false. Go ahead & try it.) Inventor - M.E.- E.E., Commonwealth Scholar —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.116.0.147 (talk • contribs) 2005-09-26 16:48:12
  • Keep. The material is of encyclopaedia worth, despite it's origins.the1physicist 16:51, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Interesting entry, glad I found it. May need to be spiffed up, but I wouldn't delete it. --128.206.99.171 21:45, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
  • KEEP Hogne 16:31, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep This article certainly deserves a place in Wikipedia. A cleanup would be nice though! --Mb1000 02:20, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep Even though a cleanup is definitely needed. JYOuyang 04:07, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Quarl (talk) 08:10, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] February 2007 discussion

Metacomment: This AFD was created in September 2005 but not properly listed and languished; meanwhile in November 2006 the article had been deleted as an uncontested prod. On 2007-02-08, I speedy-undeleted the article due to someone (presumably the inventor of XPeRT) contesting the prod and me noticing this orphan AFD with all "Keep" votes. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-08 08:13Z

  • Delete. Seems neat, but fails WP:SOFTWARE, not to mention the website is out of order. As the server is up, I'm assuming it's a lapsed hosting contract, and may be abandonware. --Dhartung | Talk 08:57, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per above - interesting AfD history, though. Arguably more interesting than the article.-Dmz5*Edits**Talk* 14:43, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. No sources = fails WP:N. Maybe there are sources out there, but I can't see them. --N Shar 16:50, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
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Addition to Feb 2007 discussion

The XPeRT Keyboard website has now been repaired, all images are now public ones and a single private image was removed on amicable terms with the owner. It was always present in reduced format. Never abandoned. See www.xpertkeyboard.com.

The main independent source of data for the XPeRT Keyboard is the Dvorak keyboard patent of 1936, at the USPTO database. The Dvorak patent contains all of the digraph (key sequence) data referenced by the XPeRT website, and the XPeRT US Patent #7,137,749 of Nov 2006, title: "A Faster Practical Keyboard".

One of the dependent sources of data flagged in the article was a list of frequency of use of letters in English writing. There are dozens of those out there, ... and a few digraph statistics other than Dvorak too. I haven't had time to find the links yet (swamped in paid work) and WOULD LIKE UNTIL MID-MARCH 2007 to locate and include those independent References.

As before, I did not start this web-page and there were several KEEP votes, no DELETE votes, before this "restart" page, which cites need for references, which can be provided, given a little breathing room (And what is an AfD anyway?)

THANKS, inventor of XPeRT keyboard, M.E.-E.E., xpertkeyboard@telus.net.