Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wu Xing Hui

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 14:19, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wu Xing Hui

non-notable club, possibly promotional Tom Harrison ^Talk 15:35, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- Tued99 02:53, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
• Comment I am slightly concerned that something that is clearly presenting itself as an East Asian religion (cf the long list of supposed names for this religion in every imaginable East Asian language) does not in fact have an existing article on any East Asian language wikipedia. I am also concerned that there appears to be no information available anywhere on when this organisation was founded, how many members it claims, or even which countries it is active in. An article that merely presents the doctrine of an organisation, while lacking such fundamental details, is problematic, to say the least. — Haeleth Talk 11:30, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

• I must disagree. Just because a society does not reveal itself according to your preference does not mean it is a fraudulent society. Please, I ask you, please refrain from such "problematic" suggestions. With warmest wishes on you and your family. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.245.5.209 (talk • contribs) 03:44, October 6, 2006.

• Comment I certainly agree with the latter's point-of-view. Thank you for your time and consideration. May Luna's continued blessings dwell inside you and your family. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jwhite72450 (talk • contribs) 03:46, October 6, 2006.

• Comment i don't understand why this would be deleted. if something exists then why delete information about it unless it offends some one in a legitimate way. i guess i am new but isn't that kind of the purpose of this site? open-source informaton...all of us adding information... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Keyien (talk • contribs) 20:11, October 6, 2006.

• Delete - "Wu Xing Hui" (in quotes) gets a grand total of 122 Ghits, including its homepage and WP/mirrors. Fails to establish notability or verifiability. It exists, insofar as someone's set up a website and is accepting credit card donations, but of course that isn't nearly enuff. May Luna's exhalted wisdom lead you down the path of deletion. --DeLarge 18:29, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Non-notable religion. Catchpole 11:15, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

 AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Deathphoenix ʕ 03:54, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. With the tiny number of google hits, this looks exactly like something someone made up one day as a joke. Presenting religious beliefs of an organization with absolutely nothing else makes a bad article. -Amarkov ^babble 04:12, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete religioncruft Danny Lilithborne 04:54, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
• delete as per above. Grutness...wha? 05:12, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Haeleth. The lack of any foreign-language articles on the topic, as well as the utter absence of any significant Google hits outside Wikipedia for a number of the alternate names, convinces me that this is total bollocks. (I tried "Hâa Tâat Sǎng-kom" which got no outside hits, "ごぎょうかい" which appears to have something to do with Naruto, and "Ngũ Hành Hội" which matched against "... toản ngũ hành, hội bát quái" in the Vietnamese wiki, which doesn't appear to be related.) Zetawoof^(ζ) 08:55, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
  • It's unfair to search for the string ごぎょうかい: this is alleged to be the reading of the kanji, and if the allegation is true we'd expect the kanji and not this hiragana to appear. (Beats me why the reading can't be given in horrible old Hepburn and must instead be in hiragana, but still.....) -- Hoary 07:17, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Well, if you prefer Sinograms, "伍行會" (the Traditional Chinese version) gets a single hit. The Simplified version gets a bunch - I suspect they're unrelated, but I can't read their crazy moon language to verify it. Zetawoof^(ζ) 07:34, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
      • The simplified Chinese characters for this name happen to be normal in postwar Japan and there are a fair number of Japanese-language hits. Among them, I didn't notice any convincing evidence for a religion of this name, though I must admit that boredom and fatigue soon overtook me so I wasn't even slightly thorough about it. -- Hoary 08:10, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
• Question: Large claims require particularly convincing evidence. We read: Their membership includes almost every Asian ethnicity as well as several American Indian nations. Can anyone present any evidence for this? There are loads of "Asian ethnicities" and quite a lot of American Indian nations; I'll settle for disinterested, reliable, convincing evidence of membership by five distinct "Asian ethnicities" and three American Indian nations. -- Hoary 07:17, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom, Haeleth, and others. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 19:04, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.