Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Will Wheaton Junior

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The result of the debate was - kept - SimonP 02:00, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Will Wheaton Junior

This does not seem to be notable or even real. google search turned up nothing. protohiro 23:12, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ok, so he is real. Not really notable though, in my opinion. We can't include every aspiring/studio musician in wikipedia...protohiro 23:17, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Comment. I found Wil Wheaton Jr. at the Internet Movie Database, but this person has only 3 credits listed. Zzyzx11 | Talk 23:18, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Exists and has produced and sung a song for a Hollywood movie, French Exit. I could go to a DVD store just about anywhere in the world and order the movie and watch (or at least heard) him sing it. This is encyclopedic. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 23:30, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The guy performed/wrote a song on a very small indie movie ten years ago. There are a lot of people in LA that match that discription. I have friend that appear on imdb and I don't think they belong in wikipedia either. Billy Valentine also sang in two movies (including "french exit") and does not and should not appear in this encylopedia. protohiro 23:39, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Why shouldn't he? If he's on imdb, I don't see why not, because then we have a verifiable source. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 00:42, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• He also did backing vocals on Rod Stewart's When We Were the New Boys and Aaron Neville's The Grand Tour and Ultimate Collection, which I'm adding. Keep. Samaritan 01:30, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. His All Music Guide entry shows that he has worked on albums by a number of notable people. [1]Capitalistroadster 08:13, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, totally agree with protohiro. This is his job, folks. I mean, more power to the guy for being able to make a living by singing, but using his current credits as basis for a keep is like saying that every engineer and technician who worked on the Space Shuttle or every electrician, best boy, and makeup artist who worked on Star Wars deserves their own article, too. Soundguy99 14:08, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment Credits are the only reason we list Tom Cruise. Acting is a job, too. imdb covers full cast and I don't see why we should not also do so. Until such as time as Jimbo runs out of paper. An engineer who designed part of the Space Shuttle? Include him too. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 14:32, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • comment Credits are NOT the only (or really even A) reason we list Tom Cruise. He is, without question, a notable person. He appears in the media. He is instantly recognizable to millions, if not billions of people. This makes his biography notable. Not the fact that he has film credits.protohiro 05:40, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Keep on the basis that his job is creative, like an actor or a space shuttle designer. Kappa 17:39, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • Comment There are many people with creative jobs. There has to be a line somewhere. Do we just run a script to include everyone listed on IMDB? IMDB is a very different thing than wikipedia. It aims to track everyone that has been credited on film. Wikipedia is meant to includ biographies of notable people, not EVERYONE who has a career that fits a particular profile. Thousands of engineers worked on the space shuttle and its components. By this argument they should all be included. You also seem to be saying that all actors be included. Would this include everyone that had a bit part in a movie? Everyone that has appeared in an advertisment? The SAG has well over 100,000 currently active members. This seems excesive to me and outside the pervue of wikipedia.protohiro 05:35, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete with prejudice. Vanity and entirely non-notable. Quale 21:02, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Keep -- an entry on IMDB and the All Music Guide indicates some notability to me. - Longhair | Talk 02:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

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