Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Who Shot Phil?

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. I will mark the page for cleanup. The delete arguments are solid, but those arguing for a keep say they can address those issues, and haven't been given time. We'll mark the page for cleanup and give them time: if the cleanup doesn't happen, we can always delete it later. Mangojuicetalk 17:14, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Who Shot Phil?

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Delete - Wikipedia articles are not plot summaries. Otto4711 23:21, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Nothing there besides plot details. Clarityfiend 23:38, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film and TV-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 01:52, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. Doczilla 06:38, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 10:22, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep extremely notable storyline in the UK, which can easily be edited to include real world context. Concerns should have been addressed on article's talk page to see if it was improved before the nomination.--Gungadin 13:00, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete If it is to be kept, it needs satisfactory application of reliable third party sources in addition to the single existing reference and should be fully re-written to address plot summary issues. Currently fails to fully demonstrate notability, but I am willing to believe that some improvement might be possible. Adrian M. H. 15:22, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep Can be expanded to provide more information similar in detail to an article about an individual Simpsons episode.--Kylohk 16:16, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete I see no real-world context or sourced analysis. The only source I see is an award for the storyline from a magazine. Delete this plot summary per WP:NOT#IINFO and WP:A. --Phirazo 16:50, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per Gungadin — AnemoneProjectors (zomg!) 15:21, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete obscure and not note worthy Eastbayway 16:39, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep per Who shot J.R.? precedent. JJL 23:47, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Not really. Who shot J.R. was a seminal television moment that helped define the modern season-ending cliffhanger. I doubt this event had nearly the cultural impact. Indrian 09:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
    • It caused the third-largest power surge ever on record, a UEFA Cup football game was postponed for it, 50,000 bets were placed on the outcome countrywide, and the reveal episode was watched by 22 million viewers. Enough cultural impact for you? -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 10:39, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
      • Maybe, maybe not, but still illustrates how Who Shot JR hardly set a precedent for this because it still was far more historically and culturally significant. Indrian 17:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
        • Can you provide a source that says that the JR storyline was mor historically and culturally significant or is that solely based on your own opinion? -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 17:44, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. This is noting but plot summary and therefore fails WP:NOT. If this has actual cultural signifigance, it should be noted in the article. Indrian 09:01, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.