Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Whitney Trettien

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 19:07, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Whitney Trettien

Tagged nn-bio but there is an assertion of notability. Not a particularly persuasive one in my view, but there you go. Just zis Guy you know? 14:27, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I am a friend of Whitney's. Since she founded the first successful Green Party in the state of Maryland, I have met numerous people who have wanted to get information about her. Wikipedia is the place.

Plus, let's be honest. If Bill White (neo-Nazi) can get a page, then so can Whitney! (I asked why he has a page, and the editor responded that since he's been in the Washington Post several times, so he deserves a page; the conversation should still be up on the talk page. Well, guess what? Whitney has been quoted in the Washington Times several times, mostly for her work with the Green Party. Furthermore, she has given radio interviews, corresponded with Ralph Nader, edited a book that is to be distributed nationally ("The Cost of Freedom Project"), and so on. Bill White's page was written by a bunch of neo-Nazi friends (or maybe parts by himself), and is replete with extraneous personal information. Whitney's page is succinct, and provides the sort of relevant information that people curious about her public activities are looking for.) Carnaptime 14:31, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

  • And when this article is as well-sourced as the White article, including sources for Washington Post and radio interviews, when said book actually is distributed nationally and meets the WP:BIO bar for editors, then I would vote to keep it. Until then, Delete per nom. I suggest that if you want to put out information about your friend, she either have a website or use the Green Party website, if she is a founder. RGTraynor 14:37, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I am working on the citations now. And acutally, she already has a book published. I'll find a link for that too.

And yeah, Bill's page is really well-sourced. I mean, he's got a video that a friend took of him being wrestled to the ground. And the Washington Post mentioned him a few times. That is well-sourced (check out his own website - or check out Whitney's!), and definitely relevant. Carnaptime 14:45, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Reluctant delete from me. She sounds like someone with a fascinating future ahead of her (and having gone through five pages of Google about her I feel well informed enough to make that comment!), but the Green Party of Maryland don't credit her as their founder, her book hasn't been independently published, her band isn't yet signed, Wikipedia doesn't do bio's of individual Harry S Truman scholars, and her website doesn't get the necessary billions of hits. So, all good luck to her, but no entry yet. Vizjim 14:59, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment No vote because I actually go to college with her. Metros232 15:07, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

So you saw the front page of the Hood paper? What does "No vote BECAUSE I actually go to college with her" mean? If I were to say "Vote because I know her," would that cancel out your comment? Try giving a reason (like she only has 500 google entries with her name) for deleting other than going to college with her!

Um...if you read my comment, it says I'm not giving an opinion either way period, that doesn't mean I'm voting for deletion because I go to college with her. I'm choosing to abstain from this since I'm attached to it on a personal level which I don't think should drive people's motives in discussion in creating an encyclopedia. Oh, and yes, I saw the front page of the Blue and Grey today. I've been on the front page of it before, do I get my own article? Metros232 15:19, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Also: "In Frederick, the Green chapter came back to life after Hood College student Whitney Trettien, 19, organized a meeting March 30." I'm working on the other citations, since this seems the be the main problem! Carnaptime 15:11, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Comment - in other words, she didn't "found" it. The Green Party of Maryland was founded in 2000, several years before Ms Trettien's involvement. Vizjim 15:17, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Yeah, and this from the lead Google hit on her, on how she is "covering a large variety of topics under an even larger number of ridiculous pseudonyms and falsified bios. Don't trust anyone over the internet." Do tell. Counting her Yahoo group and Myspace page, by the bye, she has 62 unique Google hits (I, by contrast, have half again that). [1], and if she has published a book, Amazon.com has never heard of it. RGTraynor 15:27, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

What is the quote here? I can't seem to find it on Google.

RGTraynor's quote comes from this page. Metros232 15:41, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh, guess who writes the bios? The individuals themselves! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carnaptime (talk • contribs)

What do you guys do for a living, if you don't mind me asking? As a professor, I do not have the time to continue a discussion about this page! Why don't we just delete it. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carnaptime (talk • contribs)

  • Ignoring all of the discussion above (well, not ignoring it, as I read it- just trying to form my own opinions on the article), this person does not seem to be notable enough to have a wikipage. She might be in the future, but not right now. Delete. -- Kicking222 16:43, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete for now. She can get her article when she is famous. --Tone 19:33, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. Wait until she's got real notability, not just potential for it. -- stubblyhead | T/c 20:33, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete nn-bio per nom, may be eligible in near future Crum375 23:17, 19 May 2006 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.