Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wharton County Junior College

This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page, if it exists; or after the end of this archived section. The result of the debate was KEEP NSR 1 July 2005 11:30 (UTC)

[edit] Wharton County Junior College

Substub without no significant content. Delete. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:51, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

Nomination withdrawn. I didn't see how young the article really was. I've send the author a message about placeholders and how he can user subpages to develop a decent stub before submitting it. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:55, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

I have removed the VfD tag from the article. Filiocht | Talk 13:03, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

Using a User subpage doesn't expose the article to the Wiki for collaborative expansion. Huge disadvantage, in my opinion. --Unfocused 14:43, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

True, but you need at least a decent stub to avoid deletion. Have at least a little meat to the article before letting it loose for collaboration. - Mgm|^(talk) 17:32, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

It would be helpful, but you're asking newbies to jump through a higher hoop to begin participating. Anything that makes it more difficult for legitimate, well-intentioned new users should be carefully considered before advocating. --Unfocused 17:39, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. Real institute of higher learning. Also, it's hard to take seriously a charge of it being a substub when the article was all of an hour-and-a-half old (with 3 edits) when you slapped the VfD tag on it. --Calton | Talk 11:54, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and expand like all of the other articles on specfic colleges and universities. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 11:57, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and expand verifiable 2-year college. Vtslayer 12:00, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Good stub. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 12:04, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, Vfd is not cleanup. Kappa 12:28, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. In its very brief life, this article was created, speedied, had that tag removed (by me), deleted anyway, recreated, and now listed here. All in one day! If the author was so inclined, they would have every right to feel that they were being picked on. No wonder some people become hardcore inclusionists. Filiocht | Talk 12:31, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

Comment: There is no excuse for ignoring the deletion policies to vote "keep" on every article that has "school" in the title. Some schools, like some donut shops, are notable. Most are just replicate institutions. Geogre 15:14, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Lest I appear to be making a personal attack, let me explain: is there any other category of article where it is an automatic keep? Towns are evaluated one by one. Scientific theories, computer projects, wars and battles -- all are evaluated case by case -- but "Lincoln School is in Nebraska" is supposed to be an automatic keep? I understand that some people get petulant after an article they wrote goes on VfD, but active disruption like "keep all school-named articles, no matter what's in them" is, to me, breaking the project. Geogre 16:40, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It's a stretch to say that wars are evaluated case by case. Also, there seem to be plenty of people who would vote keep on any verifiable town. Christopher Parham (talk) 16:59, 2005 Jun 24 (UTC)

For instance, read comments at this recent vfd. Christopher Parham (talk) 17:03, 2005 Jun 24 (UTC)

That's awful, alright. I can only hope that's an aberration where the "I hate VfD so I vote keep on everything" folks combined with some people who didn't read the article. Case by case is the only thing called for in the guidelines. Case by case for anything, and article by article, not topic by topic. Geogre 20:01, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Depends on the context. Lots of things are nominated based on notability. If I think all schools, or all places are notable, then a case by case study is only going to produce keep votes for all such articles. It's a false assumption to say that the "keep everything" folks aren't looking case by case. In many cases, all they have to check is that the article is about a school, and they can vote their keep. Christopher Parham (talk) 20:18, 2005 Jun 24 (UTC)

That simply isn't true. It is established practice that all countries are kept - and all villages and all railway stations too. CalJW 21:04, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Keep, npov/verifiable. Christopher Parham (talk) 16:59, 2005 Jun 24 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be placed on a related article talk page, if one exists; in an undeletion request, if it does not; or below this section.