Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/West Runton War Memorial

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Moreschi ^{If you've written a quality article...} 20:09, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] West Runton War Memorial

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Totally non-notable. No different from thousands of similar memorials in every town and village in the UK. Already adequately covered in the West Runton article. The author's proposal to list the men amazes me. -- RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 09:28, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Delete While it is not always right to delete a new article rather than waiting to see how it develops, the author's comments on the discussion page seem to suggest that this will not develop into anything more than a list of war dead, and Wikipedia is not a memorial. Also, suggestions of COI and OR. As per nom, this war memorial is not in itself notable and is, in any case, covered in West Runton. In fact, the vast bulk of this article is copied from there. Emeraude (talk) 10:50, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

• Userfy and see how it develops. I can't see the COI/OR: all he says on the talkpage is that he would have found such an article useful when he was researching his own (Devonian) family's Great War connections (so somebody researching a West Runton family would find likewise) - not that this article is his own research about his own family. --Paularblaster (talk) 13:00, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - it's covered at West Runton, and the proposed expansion with a name list would be well into WP:MEMORIAL, WP:DIRECTORY and WP:IINFO. There are plenty of other sites for genealogycruft. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 17:12, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Everything notable about this war memorial has already been said in the West Runton article. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 18:23, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I have read all your comments on the project page and can tell you that I intended to do more about the memorial than just list the names. This particular memorial is on a busy main road and has no pavement in front of it, which makes it somewhat unusual in the first place as well as not being very accessible to anyone interested in it. I hoped to add an image, details of the architect and a general description of the memorial. It also can not be attributed to just West Runton Article as it covers the Dead of East Runton also.Stavros1 (talk) 22:37, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

on a busy main road and has no pavement in front of it, which makes it somewhat unusual

Uhh, being at the top of a 1000ft tower or made entirely of radiocobalt or decorated with carvings of winged monkeys in Nazi unform would be somewhat unusual. Being on a main road and not having a pavement is a fairly banal level of unusualness. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 00:49, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

• I dont see a problem with the article wikipedia contains many types of War memorial see also List of memorials. Palmiped (talk) 20:10, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I am totally fed up with this pointless discussion. The negative comments by some of you (Especially the poor sarcasm by Gordonofcartoon) have led me to the conclusion that any dialoge with you people seems to be a waste of my and your time. I will now leave you to get on with your determined attempt to remove a postive contribution. Goodbye and thanks very much RHaworth for stirring this up in the first place Stavros1 (talk) 17:55, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

• What a depressing response. Stavros1, have you looked at britishwargraves.org.uk? It is asking for volunteers. It has entries for R W Abbs, Maurice Andrew Noel Becher and seven other men buried in West Runton churchyard. You could straightaway help by clarifying the date and place of death of the two I have linked to. -- RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 06:59, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

• Merge to village article. Nuttah (talk) 17:34, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - this article merely repeats text that is already in West Runton, so there is nothing to merge. I have heard of work researching who all the people named on war memorials were, but I would suggest that would generally be NN research. The point about East Runton can be covered if necessary by a cross-refernece from that article. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:17, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.