Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wes Platt

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The result was Delete – fails WP:BIO. - KrakatoaKatie 22:45, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wes Platt

Wes Platt (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

The article fails WP:BIO. He's very non-notable Delete GreenJoe 03:16, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

• Keep - This author is known to a majority of the roleplaying MUD community throughout several popular forums including TopMudSites and Mud Connector which get tens of thousands of hits, and has created games that have involved thousands of people. I fail to understand how this is a notability issue if the category of MUSH still stands. Carduus 03:47, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
  • This user is new. GreenJoe 04:35, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
  • I've been here for almost a year. How long before one is no longer new? Carduus 10:38, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
    • You have 7 edits and only one was a year ago... also thats the only edit not relating to Wes Platt. See WP:SPA. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 15:38, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
      • Fair enough. I see how you can think I'm an SPA. Carduus 22:49, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
        • Yep. One edit followed by 11 months of nothing looks like you created spare names once upon a time and now pulled one out for this AfD. Doczilla 06:35, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 07:18, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. The person seems to fail WP:BIO. Notability would require coverage in independent reliable secondary sources. But none are given; the only secondary source is an interview published on a blog-like platform (not reliable). Unless someone comes up with other significant sources (I didn't find any), the person is not notable by the guidelines. --B. Wolterding 12:58, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

• This person could be considered notable if some non-trivial secondary sources can be found. Right now non exist. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 15:38, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - It now lists at least two non-trivial, verifiable secondary sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.106.203.202 (talk • contribs)

• Excuse me, which two sources are you referring to, specifically? Browsing through the list of links (which has indeed grown), I found a number of blogs and online communities (not reliable), trivial mentioning, and articles written by Wes Platt (not independent), but maybe I missed these two? --B. Wolterding 08:18, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

• The Tampa Tribune profile (800 words, not exactly trivial) from 2004 and the 1991 article in the Times that confirms his involvement with the Oracle (neither of which were written by Wes Platt). The links to articles in the Times by Wes Platt merely confirm his contributions as a professional journalist. There was also a profile of him in the St. Petersburg Times Floridian section in 1991 after the Oracle achieved best student daily in the nation, but that doesn't appear to be available in the newspaper's online archives. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.106.203.202 (talk • contribs)

• OK, I see. But the 1991 St Petersburg Times article is about a student newspaper that won an award, and Platt is named as the chief editor (there's actually no more information about him). That might be worth a side note in The Oracle (University of South Florida), but does not warrant an article about the editor, in my point of view. For the Tampa Tribune article (which seems to be longer actually, I can only access the abstract): Is this not an article about the game, rather than about the person? All in all, I do not see substantial coverage. --B. Wolterding 15:40, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

• The Tribune article is indeed longer (they charge more to see the full version), but it is about Wes Platt and his projects. His background and his involvement of those projects were the point of the article, not just the games themselves. The Times article about him from the Floridian section might be available in their hardcopy archives - and that was most certainly about *him*. It was reported by Anne V. Hull, a staff writer at the Times (at the time. She's now at the Washington Post). I certainly don't have personal access to those archives, though. He was also interviewed on Orlando's Radio Sci-Fi about his projects. Not sure if there's an archived audio file available, but I can research it.

• Delete. The Tribune article looks OK, but I agree with B.Wolterding about the St. Petersburg Times story. I spent some time looking for another source, but couldn't find anything - which seems odd for someone whose assertion of notability is internet related. So, at this point it seems to me that he doesn't meet N or BIO, though I will watch to see if anything new pops up.--Kubigula (talk) 22:23, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
• Whatever. Reading this log is like reading the transcript of a court hearing. What an amazingly trivial topic, and yet both sides are researching and battling. If only you'd expend that much energy helping your fellow man, this might be a better world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.66.148.138 (talk • contribs)

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