Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/We Report, You Decide

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Fox News Channel. — TKD::Talk 21:43, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] We Report, You Decide

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No content or references, no likelihood that there will be verifiable content on this topic, let alone books or the like to establish notability. Croctotheface 07:17, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Merge with FOX Is every slogan of every major corporation deserve an article of its own? Shabda 07:29, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
possible redirect to Fox News Channel Shabda 07:30, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Most widely-known marketing slogans are notable. See, eg., Fair and Balanced. So is this one. If no one is ever interested in elaborating details, it can be replaced with the redirect at some point. But the article is harmless, not a fork, has a potential and collects some red links. If the consensus is leaning towards deletion, at least replace with a redirect to Fox News Channel. --Irpen 07:36, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Fox News Contrary to Irpen's statement, most well known marketing slogans are not actually notable enough to have their own article (if you want evidence, try it for yourself). What's more, there is no actual information in the article, nor will there be in the immediate future. There is very little notability here, and virtually no content. Calgary 07:50, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Fox News per above -Drdisque 07:56, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Fox News It's a notable enough slogan to be mentioned here. But I doubt this can be expanded into a proper article. Spellcast 08:33, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Fox News Channel - the only reason Fair and balanced has an article is because of the lawsuits and considerable controversy surrounding the slogan. Though this slogan may be similarly deceptive, there is not enough meat around this bone to warrant its own article at this time. /Blaxthos 16:13, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong keep per Irpen. Clearly a notable slogan; see here and here. --xDanielxTalk 23:29, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
    • Yay for arguments to avoid in deletion discussions! Croctotheface 23:43, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
      • I did not say "keep because Google returns more than a few hits." I simply linked to two pages which both contained an obvious plenitude of reliable sources. In any case, WP:ATA is not a policy or guideline. It is a popular place for editors to post whimsical rants involving massive generalizations and often poor reasoning. --xDanielxTalk 00:03, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Fox NewsHelmsb 23:45, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
  • "We Nominate, You Vote" and I vote Delete So it's a notable slogan. Well big deal! So is "Snap, Crackle, Pop". Like Shabda says, does every slogan need its own article? And as Croc points out, there's almost no content. "'We Report, You Decide' is a trademarked slogan used by American news broadcaster Fox News Channel." That's it? That's it? What the Fox up with that? So now we know that "'We Report, You Decide' [the title] is a trademarked [hands off, Al Franken!] slogan [it's their slogan] used [they use it] by American [not British] news [hence the name, Fox NEWS Channel] broadcaster [lie! It's a cablecast!] Fox News Channel [owners of the slogan]. Mandsford 23:53, 6 August 2007 (UTC) Merge back into Fox News Channel. If there's information about who coined the slogan and when, that's relevant and could be included in the main article without making it larger. In all honesty, I didn't see the portion beyond what was quoted above. However, my comments were rather harsh, and I'm a jerk. Irpen, I apologize. Mandsford 02:22, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
    • No problem. There have been occasions where my remarks were worse. Thanks! --Irpen 03:09, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: I am sorry that my good faith attempt to make a stub that would merely collect links has become a subject of ridicule. I really do not feel any attachment to the issue and if others want to nuke it, go right ahead. On the side note, I believe that the info who and when coined the slogan, how it was parodied and ridiculed by others, etc. would be excessive in the Fox News Channel article. At the same time, I believe that such info is not secret and can be found. Also, I believe such info can belong to Wikipedia and this specific article would be the best place for it. So, all I did was the creation of a placeholder, a stub as a linktarget. No big deal. Delete it if it's annoying. --Irpen 00:18, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
    • I don't mean to suggest that you acted in bad faith or did anything the least bit unseemly. I also don't want to give the impression that there's anything personal here or that I take some sort of great joy in getting the article deleted. I just don't see what kind of content there could be surrounding this slogan except that it exists. A better place to start developing content about the slogan could be at Fox News Channel. If there turned out to be so much content on the slogan that its section overwhelmed the article there, then it would be appropriate to break it off into its own article. For now, though, I just don't see it. Croctotheface 22:36, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
      • Clarification: I was referring to the tone of the Mandsford's comment above. The fact that some do not see this stub worthy don't bother me a least bit. As I said, I don't care whether this stays or gets nuked. --Irpen 01:25, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Redirect and Merge to Fox, however if I see any sources other than fox news referring to it... ....then we should keep. Mathmo Talk 21:18, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Fox News per above. --PEAR (talk) 11:17, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.