Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wausau Center (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete; There is, indeed, no "local sources don't count" clause in the notability guidelines. There is, however, the requirement that sources provide significant coverage which has not been demonstrated. Ample time for sourcing has been provided since the last AfD. — Coren ^(talk) 19:53, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wausau Center

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Non-notable mall in Wisconsin. I placed this page up for deletion back in August (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wausau Center) with a result of "no consensus". User:Edison cited a few sources in that previous discussion, but a.) they weren't added to the page, and b.) they were "man bites dog" type reports anyway. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 06:49, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

• Keep - It may not be notable to you but it may be notable to those in the Wausau area.--jonrev (talk) 22:38, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

• Local notability isn't usually good enough. Otherwise shopping mall pages would never be deleted. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 00:26, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

• keep - Cites added. Local notability is still notability. I can see a lot of Hungarian town Articles that are kept only out of local notability, so it must count for something. Exit2DOS2000^•T•C• 05:33, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

• "Other stuff exists" is not a good argument. Pages on small Hungarian towns exist because Wikipedia consensus dictates that all towns, cities, villages, etc. are notable. Malls, on the other hand, are not always notable. None of the references provided establish any sort of notability beyond "it's a mall serving the community" -- pretty much all malls serve the community unless they're boarded up. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 19:56, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

• I did not say Other stuff exists, what I said was "Local notability is still notability" it cannot be discounted simply for its location. Exit2DOS2000^•T•C• 05:59, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per ample precedents. It is simply too small without notability. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

• "precedents" ? where ? AfD is about taking a case by case look at Articles ... isnt it ? Exit2DOS2000^•T•C• 05:59, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. "Local notability" is fine if that means we have multiple reliable independent local sources that can be used to give reasonable coverage of the topic. In this case, we have a couple of sources that mention the mall but don't say anywhere near enough about it to imply that we can cover the topic. Furthermore, this is the kind of coverage I would expect for a typical mall, so I doubt there is more out there. Mangojuice^talk 16:43, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - It has been the subject of secondary sources. There's no "local sources don't count" clause in our notability guidelines. --Oakshade 06:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Don't see anything notable about it. --Fang Aili ^talk 17:52, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.