Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wallid Ismail

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. (aeropagitica) 23:08, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wallid Ismail

Procedural nomination: Not the best of articles. It lacks in formatting, but that's not reason enough to speedy as the tagger suggested. Based on the YouTube link provided, this person appears to have been part of one or more televised martial arts matches. Makes him notable enough for me. Looking for community opinion before I remove any deletion tags. I suggest Keep. - Mgm|(talk) 11:40, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep notable PRIDE fighter. Also made one appearance at the Ultimate Fighting Championship. Apparently defeated the legendary Royce Gracie in a grappling match in 1998 which would almost be enough for notability by itself. MLA 11:58, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
    • However, remove the copyvio that comes from Sherdog and clean up the intro. I'd not necessarily be opposed to a deletion without prejudice against creating a proper article. MLA 12:01, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Removed copyvio, added source and cats. What do you think now, MLA? - Mgm|(talk) 12:09, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
    • It wasn't an egregious copyvio as it was a list of facts but with it removed, the article is a stub with potential as I do believe Ismail is notable so should be kept. Will need work but so do most wikipedia articles. MLA 12:12, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Keep(Provisionally) Its a fan base article - a 9-3 record does not make you the greatest grappler ever known even if you took out Royce. Still if it could be just fleshed out a bit - where he's from, when he was born, something - then it would have some value. Among the BJJ crowd taking out a Gracie is notable. As it stands its a piece of fluff.Peter Rehse 06:51, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.