Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wake no Kiyomaro

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The result was keep (nomination withdrawn) (non-admin closure). Pablo Talk | Contributions 18:26, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wake no Kiyomaro

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Doesn't provide context. Looks like the subject is also non-notable Phoenix 15 21:40, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

It looks like an AFD nom can vastly improve an article. The article now says exactly who Wake no Kiyomaro was and why he was notable, unlike before, where there were no references and no context was established--Phoenix 15 19:13, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah, that means Keep--Phoenix 15 19:15, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

• Delete No sources, definitely NN. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 21:44, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, more than likely non-notable, and there is barely any context whatsoever. Also, there are no sources in the article. *Cremepuff222* 22:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
• Weak delete as it stands but entirely without prejudice; it's certainly possible a Japanese speaker could expand this substantially. — iridescent (talk to me!) 22:01, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep I have sourced and expanded the article based on three out of the hundreds of English GBooks hits this man's name gets. He also appears on old 10-yen notes, making him a rather likely candidate for encyclopedia searches. cab 00:36, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. cab 00:36, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Definitely notable. Article has been improved, too. Fg2 01:28, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
• Keep I wonder if having a statue of you makes you notable automatically. -- Taku 01:32, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Having your likeness on a nation's bank notes certainly does! Fg2 01:56, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
    • I can think of examples where that's probably not the case, e.g. the lower-denomination renminbi notes ... cab 02:06, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
• Request The article currently says "Wake no Kiyomaro was a Japanese high-ranked official". If "high-ranked official" was adequetly explained (What exactly does it mean?) then I would be willing to withdraw the nomination--Phoenix 15 17:41, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
  • I found another source which sheds a bit more light on this and added it to the article. I'm still not sure about before his exile, but after he came back (in 770), he was appointed kami (official) of Bizen Province (vaguely analogous to a state governor, for example). Cheers, cab 02:04, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
• Change to Keep following expansion. For someone who lived 1200 years ago the sources aren't going to be perfect & we just need to accept that. — iridescent (talk to me!) 12:27, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

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