Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wacko Jacko

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The result of the debate was Redirect. Golbez 06:01, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wacko Jacko

Redirect to Michael Jackson; it seems inherently POV that it's there at all. Why not create a page called Wife murderer and redirect to O.J. Simpson? ral315 05:01, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)

• COMMENT from nominator: This is a vote to delete a redirect; however, I thought putting it on VfD, rather than RfD, would make sure that if the intent of the community was to keep (because this obviously has been very anti-delete - which I understand) it needed to go before the general consensus of most users, rather than the fewer who watch RfD. ral315 06:04, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

• Keep as redirect. Because when you say "wife murderer", you could be talking about Robert Blake. Or Scott Peterson. When you say Wacko Jacko, what else could you possibly be referring to? Or, better yet, who else would you likely be talking about? -- BD2412 ^talk 05:11, 2005 Jun 12 (UTC)

comment Wife murderer, well someone made that redirect just now :-P , -- Melaen 16:21, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Comment, well I've changed it to a redirect to Spousal abuse just now. -- BD2412 ^talk 16:30, 2005 Jun 12 (UTC)

• Keep Redirect to Michael Jackson. It's not POV to use a well-established nickname for someone as a redirect. Unwanted redirects belong at WP:RFD, anyway. Oh, I get it now. There's been a dispute over whether this ought to be its own article or a redirect. AиDя01DTALKEMAIL 16:43, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. I don't believe redirects can violate NPOV. And Wacko Jacko was in use long before the child molestation charges came up. Anyone remember the hyperbaric chamber and the monkey? 23skidoo 05:46, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Sure they can (violate NPOV, that is). For example, The Evil Empire (not really created as a redirect, just piped for illustration). AиDя01DTALKEMAIL 05:52, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Its a well-known nickname and likely to be searched for so redirect is useful. Capitalistroadster 05:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Well known nickname. Sasquatch′↔Talk↔Contributions 06:48, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. It's a established fact, not point of view, that the media some times refers Michael Jackson as "Wacko Jacko". -- AllyUnion (talk) 08:18, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Redirects can indeed be POV as described above, but this one isn't. Mgm|^(talk) 10:13, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
• Merge with King of Pop into Michael Jackson slogans. ~~~~ 11:17, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Comment. A VfD discussion isn't needed for this. You could have just redirected it to Michael Jackson and performed any necessary merge. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 11:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep This is a commonly used name for whatever the hell Michael Jackson is. Spotteddogsdotorg 14:18, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Keep, unfortunately. I understand why the nominator entered it into the VfD derby, as it's an honest question whether having the redirect implies official endorsement of the content of the phrase. Until there is a worthy, NPOV article on the fate of Mikey and the scandal press, this should be a redirect, as we're not agreeing or disagreeing, but merely indicating that users expect to type it in and get to him. Geogre 15:02, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Keep What the hell else are you gonna call the sick freak. ConeyCyclone 17:35, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep as redirect, per Geogre. --Idont Havaname 18:25, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect. If the vote is to keep, then the POV of the article may need to be reviewed. Vegaswikian 06:00, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect. Neutrality^talk 20:10, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

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