Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WE Youth Political organization

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The result was delete. Singularity 21:16, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WE Youth Political organization

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Non notable subject matter and organization. WP:SOAP. WP is used to create notability for this organization. --Hillock65 (talk) 15:32, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Comment That was my inclination as well. But a question: what are we to make of the two Russian-language secondary sources in external links? I can't read it, but WP does allow for non-English citations when that's all that's available. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:48, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't worry about that. Those are links to articles calling for "independence" of Crimea and enumerating of all the "suffering" of Russians in Sebastopol. It is a separatist movement and it is trying to use WP to get notability. Those links do not relate to the movement per se, but rather to their political goals. They are indeed, irrelevant. --Hillock65 (talk) 15:55, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Delete, then. Thanks,Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:01, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

• Delete, (edit conflict) not only that, but images are being used in the article with zero information on the image page. Cirt (talk) 15:48, 13 December 2007 (UTC).
• Delete - non-notable, WP:AUTO, WP:SOAP and WP:OWN violations, with NPOV violations and peacockery, no independent criticism (I'm told the two articles attest that the organization exists and that's about it) --Orange Mike | Talk 15:53, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

that is not true. articles do not "calling for the independence of Crimea but respresent info on survey of Sevastopol population and its results". It is NOT separatist movement (separatists movements are funded by US. Example: PORA organization). Be honest before write opinions!--Wana7 (talk) 16:18, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Frankly, it doesn't matter. Even if the articles state what you say, if they are not articles about your organization, verifying its notability, then they are of zero help to you in this matter, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:27, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

query?I fear we mean different things by "separatist." PORA is not an organization which calls for separating any part of Ukraine from the rest, which is what is usually meant by separatist in this context. What do you understand the term to mean here, Wana7?--Orange Mike | Talk 17:37, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

I guess Wana7's slip of tongue "betrayed" their political views: separatism off the former great state. `'Míkka>t 18:07, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Now, now, now: assume good faith, gospodin Mikkalai! --Orange Mischa | Talk 19:09, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

• Delete non-notable with WP:SOAP, WP:POV and WP:OWN violations.Osli73 (talk) 16:26, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete without prejudice. Non-notable for now. No independent sources which specifically describe it. `'Míkka>t 16:59, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
• Tangential comment For those who read Russian I suggest to google for "движение Мы" and read about the Russian (not Ukrainian) "Мы". Much more fun, I tell you. Two examples of their actions:
  • Delivering of highly suspicious stones to FSB (Explanation: a hint to espionage paranoia: since the Soviet times it is well-known that CIA plants intelligence-collecting devices all over Russia camouflaged as stones, tree stumps, etc.)
  • Action in support of Putin's Plan, part of which was smoking of select Putin's plan (Explanation: in Russian language, "plan" is also slang for weed (cannabis))

Anyone dare to write an article? `'Míkka>t 16:59, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

• Comment 2 The title is wrong: Ukrainian WE specifically declare themselves as civic, rather than political organization, which makes in possible to avoid obligatory registration of the organization. `'Míkka>t 16:59, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Non notable. Ostap (talk) 17:11, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Non-notable. --Yakudza (talk) 17:38, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete No wish to stay here. Profanity. Yakudza, ukrainian radical, you also here? You push activity of pro-russian movements in any-language Wiki websites??))--Wana7 (talk) 21:10, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Please don't stay here, stay in Sevastopol, make yourself notable, and then someone will write an article about you even against your will :-) `'Míkka>t 22:19, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy delete per WP:SOAP, WP:POV, and WP:N. Bearian (talk) 18:07, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

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