Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vitello's restaurant
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Please note that the author of the article argued to keep twice. --Coredesat 03:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Vitello's restaurant
Vitello's Restuarant is the establishment where Bonnie Lee Bakley, wife of famed actor Robert Blake, was shot to death in a car. That, I'm afraid, is all we'll ever be able to say about this otherwise non-notable restaurant. Pascal.Tesson 04:34, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom Citicat 04:36, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Keep the fact that it figured prominently in a part of popular culture wherein a famous murder took place should be enough to warrant its inclusion in wikipedia. Note that Sparks Steak House where a far less famous murder took place is also included in wikipedia. Juddtrichter 05:19, 5 April 2007 (UTC)judd
- Note I copied this from the afd talk page; it is the contribution of the article's author. MKoltnow 05:27, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOTE. Info on Bonnie Lee Bakley interesting, but not enough to prove notability. --HubHikari 05:27, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Delete, non-notable, etc. In fact, Bonnie Lee Bakley was not shot to death in this restaurant, but was shot around the corner from the restaurant after having eaten there. So it even loses that "claim to fame". Arkyan • (talk) 15:14, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per above. Heck, even if it were the right spot, which it's not, this would merit nothing more than a Merge and Delete. RGTraynor 17:26, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Clearly you don't live in LA if you think Vitello's, a Valley institution and former regular hang out for celebrities, is not-notable. Though I can't vouch for the food. Castellano wasn't shot inside Sparks either, so why don't you go delete that too? Robert Blake and Bonnie Lee had just eaten there, Blake went back to get his gun, when he returned to his car she had been shot. This is an event that will last in LA folklore as long as the Black Dahlia, OJ, Specter and other famous crimes. User:juddtrichter
- Then by all means, go and nominate Sparks Steak House for deletion. Saying that other articles exist is not a valid reason for hanging on to an article. Please address the concerns of this debate that the article does not demonstrate notability by providing sources to reliable, secondary sources that would establish such notability. Arkyan • (talk) 18:03, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Delete Its association with BLB is peripheral at best and that alone would not make it notable. If, as Judd asserts, it is a well known LA spot then that might make it notable however that's not the thrust of the article. If someone were doing research on the BLB murder they might mention Vitello's must I doubt they would need a reference on it. JBEvans 21:23, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - historic location Yakuman (数え役満) 05:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
- Delete - even though I agree with Yakuman (数え役満), the article itself is too small. As long as it's mentioned in their articles (Blake and Bakely) it's gotten all the attention it needs. Anynobody 08:02, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
- Weak keep unfortunately the threshold for notability at WP is low, and being the scene of a celebrity's wife's murder seems to meet it. We have Golden Dragon massacre but no article for Golden Dragon Restaurant, but I would figure that the restaurant would be notable due to the massacre, and body count seems to equate to celebrity in these sorts of things. Carlossuarez46 16:24, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
