Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vindhyachal House

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The result was Delete - socking is futile.Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 02:04, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vindhyachal House

Non notable student hostel. PROD removed by an editor. I am also nominating the following related pages because they were prodded simultaneously and for same reason:

• Aravali House
• Kumaon House
• Karakoram House

— Ambuj Saxena (talk) 14:29, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

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• Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletions. -- Aksi_great (talk - review me) 18:34, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - Not particularly notable dormitories. Wickethewok 14:45, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep -The Dormitory has stood since the ceation of the institute and is over 50 years old.It has been home to over 20,000 students in these years. The page is neatly done, and considering the importance of these buildings, I strongly suggest keeping the page. Similar pages can actually be improved by contributors.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.134.51.172 (talk • contribs)
• Strong Keep - The dormitories of many universities are listed on wikipedia. IIT being of prime imporatnce to millions of people in India. It is unfair to delete a long standing dormitory(which is almost like a landmark). Also the page conforms to the standards of Wikipedia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.141.71.36 (talk • contribs) .
• Delete or Merge to a "list of IIT, Delhi dormitories" or the "IIT, Delhi" article dormitories are normally not notable. See for recent examples, Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sidney_Pacific and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Simmons Hall (Penn State). I see no assertion of any form of significant notability that anyone not from the campus would care about. Even dorms with architectural notability, such as Simmons Hall (MIT) are normally merged to a campus article. I see no links to independent media coverage or other independent reliable sources to verify the material in the articles or that they are worth having an article on. GRBerry 19:10, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep - An example of another house which is not significantly notable is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabot_House . This page should be preserved. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.87.43.18 (talk) .

• Comment Arguments that one article should be kept or deleted because another exists/was deleted are fairly weak. (For extant articles, they simply may never have been called into question, and for deletes, it may well have been deleted because of article specific content issues.) Stronger arguments refer to regular practices and policies of Wikipedia. GRBerry 19:58, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

• Comment. Please see Wikipedia:List of bad article ideas, fourth point. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 07:47, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
• Merge. I'd say create an article similar to Student Life in IIT Kharagpur: Student Life in IIT Delhi and merge all these hostel articles. utcursch | talk 13:37, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: See also. Tapti Hostel, Syed Hostel, Bonophool Hostel, Redworth (hostel), Niagara Hostel, The Old Boys Hostel. utcursch | talk 13:37, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete or Merge to a List of IIT Delhi dormitories per GRBerry, utcursch, and my own nom. Article not notable enough to stand on its own. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 13:31, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep: The deletion proposal , it seems stems from the fact that the proposer's dorm was taken off wikipedia. As a member of a competing IIT, he wants to get all the hostels of other IITs off Wikipedia. There is no merit in his justification that the article is not notable enough to stand on its own. Please refrain from making such generalized statements.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.90.96.128 (talk • contribs)
  • Comment. If the article is notable, please feel free to add the info in the article that will make the notability clear to us. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 13:34, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Wikipedia:List of bad article ideas. This one's a guideline, folks. Icewolf34 13:36, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep The article cannot be generalized using the Wikipedia:List of bad article ideas. The article is notable and should be kept. {Where Therez a Will Therez a Way 00:03, 2 September 2006 (UTC)}
  • Comment. Can you elaborate why you find the article notable and why this article should be counted as exception. Nothing to that effect is mentioned in the article. Also, please specify whether you find all the nominated articles notable, or just Vindhyachal House article. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 06:41, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. This is a very dangerous moment, reminiscent of the Great High School Imbroglio that took up 50% of AfD time about a year ago. If we permit, for example, college dormitories with a genuine history, such as Eliot House, how can we then claim that Ara or whatever do not have, if not as notable a history, then a sufficiently notable history, without causing a bit of a ruckus? And, once Ara or Vindhya or whatever survives AfD, wont every 20-person hostel add itself to Wikipedia?

Someone please put Eliot House up for deletion, if they dont believe any hostels are notable enough. If certain hostels are notable, have a look at Eliot House - wow, Leonard Bernstein lived there for three years! and Benazir and the Unabomber! - and consider very carefully why IITD hostels have had fewer people of national importance living there. The most that can be said for Eliot architecturally is that it is 'typical of Harvard'. Peronally, I think all House/dorm/rez/College(at Yale) articles should go, unless theyre genuinely notable for architecture. Hornplease 08:12, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

All non-notable hostels, whether of IITs or not, should be deleted. I am planning to PROD all the hostels mentioned in this AfD in the near future, after making sure (by google searching, etc) that they are non-notable. If someone wants to PROD them now, please go ahead. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 11:40, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Please do. I look forward to those AfDs.Hornplease 06:20, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

• Update. I have created a merged article in my article space at User:Ambuj.Saxena/IITD, in case the debate results in a merger. I have taken the liberty of moving the common elements across all hostels to the lead, and remove the cruft present. The article can still do with a copyedit by someone who is conversant with the hostel details. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 11:32, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. See Template:Pennsylvania_State_University_campus as a model of campus entities worthy of an article and List of Penn State residence halls as a total list. Show some judgement. Also, see the debate at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Atherton_Hall_(Penn_State) and the comment by BigDT "there seems to have been some discretion here and they only have articles on their somewhat notable buildings." Show some discretion. Flying Jazz 23:58, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

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