Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vincent Covello(musician)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Mangojuicetalk 15:25, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Vincent Covello(musician)
An unencyclopedic article composed in the main of unexplained links and website addresses. Assertion of notabilty appears to be based on singing and co-writing "BT's (Brian Transeau) break-out hit song from his IMA album, "Loving You More"." Fails WP:MUSIC. The creation of a single purpose account. Victoriagirl 23:42, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
- Delete no G hits, no news hits, apart from references to his track on BT album. --- tqbf 23:47, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Keep, just needs to be fixed up, do a search for "Body Soul and Mind" they're a dance/electronica/pop duo, surely that makes him notable...but the article needs major cleanup. Also have a look over at Fawn (musician) for some info. --UnleashTheWolves 00:27, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Comment Mention of Covello in the article for Fawn ("best known for her long blond braids, philanthropic work and song "Oneday" produced by BT") is limited to the following: "Fawn teamed up with recording artist, Vincent Covello (BT 'Loving You More' fame), and formed the group, Body, Soul and Mind which completed and released its debut album of the same title on Stonedef Records". I disagree that merely being a member of a dance/electronica/pop duo makes him notable... and add that relevant ghits for "Body, Soul and Mind" appear limited to YouTube, MySpace and other self-generated references. Again, fails WP:MUSIC. Victoriagirl 00:49, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- Comment - My apologies, the Fawn article also includes the following unreferenced claims: "Songs from the [Body, Soul and Mind] album have been featured on a variety of music compilations, prompting Body, Soul and Mind to release another album entitled "Soulscape Vol. I" (2007) in conjunction with celebrity chef Roman Hadrbolec's new cook book. Hadrbolec has been the chef for Tom Cruise, Jack Nicholson,Cher, Paul Newman and Arnold Schwarzenegger to name a few. Fawn and Vincent traveled to Prague to perform at the Book/CD red carpet release party and pen a deal in the Czech Republic and Slovakia." My recommendation that the article be deleted remains. Victoriagirl 00:55, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- Comment Mention of Covello in the article for Fawn ("best known for her long blond braids, philanthropic work and song "Oneday" produced by BT") is limited to the following: "Fawn teamed up with recording artist, Vincent Covello (BT 'Loving You More' fame), and formed the group, Body, Soul and Mind which completed and released its debut album of the same title on Stonedef Records". I disagree that merely being a member of a dance/electronica/pop duo makes him notable... and add that relevant ghits for "Body, Soul and Mind" appear limited to YouTube, MySpace and other self-generated references. Again, fails WP:MUSIC. Victoriagirl 00:49, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. No, being one half of "a dance/electronica/pop duo" does not make a person automatically notable. Unless reliable sources are provided, this person fails WP:V. Deor 00:38, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- Delete I was going to say merge to "Body Soul and Mind" but we don't have an article on "Body Soul and Mind". Fails WP:MUSIC as a solo performer in my opinion as the hit single appears to be accredited to Brian Transeau not Vincent Covello. As an aside, I do not think that Fawn (musician) meets WP:MUSIC either and that should be AfD too. --Malcolmxl5 00:44, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Reply - I suppose you're all right, whilst in my opinion he is vaguely notable enough to have his own article, there is a huge lack of sources, and not much to write in it. So I guess I'll take that back and vote delete. *sigh* lol --UnleashTheWolves 00:53, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- ... and so now there is, malcomxl5: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fawn (musician). --- tqbf 01:28, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Keep Passes WP:MUSIC#Criteria for composers and lyricists 1. "Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a musician or ensemble that qualifies above".[1] dissolvetalk 05:40, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- Comment - does that really apply to a single, marginally-notable track by a single, moderately notable musician? I read "Composers and lyricists" as the Tin Pan Alley exception, not the "Stuff Like Vincent Covello's one track for BT" policy. --- tqbf 18:08, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, and lack of evidence of notability. Terraxos 18:39, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. I did some copyediting. Turns out the song was a hit, and it turns out the song and the album and "DT" are already on Wikipedia. I hope all the above deletes read this, and consider changing their positions. Kingturtle 01:14, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
- BT is quite well known (I have that album). His various non-notable collaborators --- not so much. --- tqbf 02:35, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
- Weak Keep I've added specific chart positions and a source (I knew that book would come in handy). I'll grant that his notability is not extensive, but the fact that the song charted does seem to qualify. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 02:17, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.