Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Video Game News

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 05:39, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Video Game News

The podcast with the lastest in, what else, video game news. -- Perfecto 21:26, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Fails WP:WEB. OK, young men, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a podcast announcement service. --Perfecto 21:26, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
  • See also the conversation between these boys on its Talk page.
• Delete as per nom; WP:WEB violation. The 'talk' page for the article says it all, "grey area" of notability, indeed!  (aeropagitica)  21:35, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, per nom. PJM 21:32, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom, fails WP:WEB. -- Dragonfiend 22:10, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. No way to assert notability for a podcast. Haikupoet 03:12, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
• Comment Podcast notability methods need discussion. Not knowing how to assert notability is not reason enough for deletion on any topic. There is a hostile attitude on wikipedia towards all things radio, internet radio, and podcasting mostly due to a lack of knowledge on the subjects. I would think in general, if external sources (other than the website for the podcast) can be cited, then the articles should stay until some other way to judge notability is determined for topics in these categories. Randomgenius 04:07, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
  • I think there is a bare consensus that licensed radio stations should be kept, though it isn't universally accepted. When you get into media like internet radio and podcasting, though, you have several problems. First off, they're DIY media, which inherently is going to generate a large quantity of garbage and a few gems (much like, say, garage bands, which are wikied and deleted by the legion every day). Second, there's no easy way to measure such things -- there are no sites that measure podcast or webcast popularity to any reasonable degree of certainty (though Yahoo Podcast is helpful in that regard). Likewise with Internet radio -- you could probably make a decent case for anything included in the iTunes radio tuner, but beyond that, how many stations are there on Shoutcast that have no listeners at all, ever? Ultimately I agree with you, and I'm sure others would as well -- there does need to be a discussion on the issue. But what you percieve as prejudice is AfD voters saying "Oh, no. Someone else's pet project. Make it stop..." Haikupoet 04:28, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Randomgenius, though we disagree at times here at AfD, I shall fully support the creation of Wikipedia:Notability (podcasts) (or maybe adding it to the neglected broadcasting guideline). This might even lead to a {{nn-podcast}} speedy tag. --Perfecto 04:33, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Thanks Perfecto. I did actually start working on an internet radio project under my user page for now. I don't know if it should be moved into a real wikipedia project yet tho. It could be modified slightly to include podcasting as well. Either way, the discussion needs to happen somewhere. Podcast and podcruft are obviously synonymous in the wikipedia community already and that's extremely unfortunate. Randomgenius 19:56, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Oh I say bring it in -- Feed it to the numerous wikicritters who "collaboratively" turn it to something else (for the good, if that's any consolation). Think of a good name, though. --Perfecto 02:58, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as podcruft. Support Perfecto's speedy idea. Stifle 17:46, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.