Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Victoria Cook

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 12:27, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Victoria Cook

This article was listed late at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Kendall (politician) and since that discussion didn't receive much attention after the inclusion, I'm listing it separately. The relevant part of the discussion is copied below. - Bobet 13:07, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

• Delete all - local councillors with no other claim to notability. I should like to add another Brentwood councillor Victoria Cook to the nomination. BlueValour 04:34, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

• Comment I didn't add Cook as she was Leader of the Council, which to my mind just confers enough notability. But in reality I am neutral - it's still hard to write a sourced article on her. Martín (saying/doing) 07:54, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - it still fails WP:BIO since it is only a borough council. There may be an argument for the leader of a County Council but I think borough councils are too far down the food chain. The US equivalent is leader of a city council and we have previously agreed that that is not notable. I have googled for '"Victoria Cook" councillor' and '"Victoria Cook" Brentwood' and got no independent returns so if we keep the article, as you say, it cannot be sourced. BlueValour 16:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - I am not sure I agree with the borough vs county argument in England. Here boroughs actually have a considerable amount of power and counties reduced to a rump providing rural education, transport and planning. Most metropolitan boroughs, including in London, have complete local authority with no county council at all as they are unitary authorities. My own 'borough', the London Borough of Croydon, has 350,000 residents and is larger than most counties. It's parish councils and town councils which are the non-executive, non-notable levels of authority here. In a UK context, we either would have to have no council leaders including counties, or allow counties, boroughs and districts. That said, I have no real objection in this case unless it sets a policy precedent. Martín (saying/doing) 16:29, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - the huge difference is that the London Borough of Croydon has most of the broad powers of a unitary authority whereas a borough council doesn't have, most importantly, any responsibility for education. Brentwood is not a metropolitan borough (which Croydon is) (if it was I might well agree with you). I live in a similar borough (West Lancashire) and the leader of the council has low profile since the big decisions are made at Lancashire County Hall. BlueValour 17:14, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

• delete as not notable. Brentwood council is considerably below any sensible radar. Ohconfucius 09:03, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.