Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Varol Akman (2nd nomination)

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The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 01:15, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Varol Akman (2nd nomination)

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A self promoting article of a non-notable academic. Created by User:Akman, this article doesn't meet WP:A or the notability requirement for biographies. See also: First nomination Alan.ca 14:13, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. The earlier AFD discussion has no consensus, but the "keeps" there pointed out that Akman's lengthy list of publications can be confirmed, and the fact that he is known outside of Turkey must imply that he passes minimum notability requirement. That there may be some vanity involved in his creation of the article may make some think less of him as a human being, I don't think that in itself can justify the deletion. semper fictilis 14:43, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Certainly a person of such stature should have an article written about him by some well known reliable source? Alan.ca 18:42, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletions. --   ⇒ bsnowball  09:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. No evidence presented that he passes the "professor test". --kingboyk 15:08, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• keep There are over 160 total citations to his 37 papers listed in Web of Science. This is more than average both in productivity & citations. DGG 08:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Question What is web of science and where can these citations you had located be found? Alan.ca 20:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment Web of Science is a database of academic publishing--it is where you go to find out what scientists/scholars have published. semper fictilis 00:03, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete There is nothing here that is cited. What secondary source says he is "interesting and influential"? In fact, what secondary source other than Akman's own pages justifies the inclusion of any of the claims in this article? There isn't a source for any of the sentences. People that are notable have numerous secondary sources that will talk about them, Akman doesn't and thus should be removed. Vivaldi (talk) 05:58, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per User:TruthbringerToronto in the previous AFD and User:DGG here. In addition, this many publications by and citations for a non-Western (i.e., US, Canada, Western Europe) academic is very rare. -- Black Falcon 20:09, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

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