Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Valina

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Nandesuka (talk) 01:24, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Valina

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Fails WP:MUSIC. Just because the person who recorded the album is notable, that does not mean that the band is notable. Notability is not inherited. No third party sources or major label. Delete Undeath (talk) 15:07, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

• Keep meets WP:MUSIC through international touring, association with Steve Albini and reviews (see Popmatters [1]). Catchpole (talk) 17:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
  • The "association" with Albini is not notable by itself. He just helped record the album. That is not notable. But the tour may be. I have to check the link and see if I can find another one confirming it. I would think that a tour that large would be published in multiple sources. Undeath (talk) 18:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
    • Also, that was one review and it was a very short one. I don't believe that it asserts any notability. Undeath (talk) 18:50, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep. There's also this All Music Guide review of their album. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 19:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
• Delete: No reference in the article. Then again... maybe there are some somewhere out there... but I sure aint' going to start looking for it, specially for what looks like a self promotion article. WAKE UP and smell the self-promo... delete it. And once you find some reliable sources then come back and republish. --CyclePat (talk) 03:38, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

p.s.: and make sure it's properly referenced in the article. --CyclePat (talk) 03:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, --VS ^talk 06:35, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, jonny-mt 17:00, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

• Delete - totally fails to assert its notability. —TreasuryTag talk contribs 17:25, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
• delete Does not appear to be notable. One editor claims notability under Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Criteria for musicians and ensembles #7 (international tour). I presume that person meant #4 (that one is for tours, #7 is for prominent representation). However, an international tour is not enough - there needs to be non-trivial coverage. This is not asserted in the article, and I haven't seen anything after a Google search. StephenBuxton (talk) 17:47, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
• Delete as above: fails notability standard. Eusebeus (talk) 18:27, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. —Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 18:52, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
• Comment A google search turns up this and this. Alongside the AMG album page and the associations with Steve Albini, these could point towards notability. sparkl_!sm ^hey! 09:14, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - nomination from personal ignorance - David Gerard (talk) 13:44, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep Theres more than enough substantiation. Eclecticology (talk) 09:23, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.