Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vagabond (person)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

Article has been overhauled since listing, and consensus here has proved the article to be kept. Nomination withdrawn(?). The result was keep. Non-administrator close. Rt. 20:50, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vagabond (person)

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Article consists only of a dictionary definition and a "vagabonds in pop culture" section. We'd probably be better off scrapping this article and finding a suitable redirect. Bongwarrior (talk) 21:41, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

• Delete Earlier today, I looked at it hard to figure out how to fix this article and couldn't. I think you may be right that this should be a dictionary definition elsewhere, and we already have articles on homelessness, etc. I don't think it *can* ever be more than a bunch of lists and poor examples. Pharmboy (talk) 22:05, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

• Already covered by Wiktionary, so delete per nom. Addhoc (talk) 22:18, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

• Merge with Vagrancy (people) and redirect. At least some of the literary mentions might be worth keeping; that may best for now be moved to talk. "Vagabond" is a term used in law in some jurisdictions, but "vagrant" is much more common; the concepts are similar enough to treat together. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 23:31, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep This page is a vital source of information on Evan Davis, the most famous vagabond of all time. I don't know why you guys keep deleting this, and taking out all information on Evan Davis. Vagabondprtctr (talk) 23:54, 22 December 2007 (UTC)VagabondPrtctr— Vagabondprtctr (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Comment I keep reverting the info someone keeps adding on Evan Davis because it is not cited and doesn't belong, and likely is why Bongwarrier came to AFD with it. Start a seperate article on Evan Davis if you like, although I suggest making sure it is verifiable and reliably sourced or it will end up here as well. Pharmboy (talk) 01:02, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

The user can't do that now, he/she has been indefinitely blocked for constant disruption. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 00:46, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. User:Dhartung has added information on the legal term vagabond in medieval England, and it seems relevant and specific enough to make it not worth merging the page. I urge delete-voters to take another look. I would basically get rid of the lists, though, as they don't seem to serve any purpose, being based on quite trivial appearances of the word. Rigadoun (talk) 07:08, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per Rigadoun. Addhoc (talk) 11:01, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
• Change from Delete to Neutral Struck above. It is much better after the work Dhartung did, the original was a bloody mess but the new, concise article is ok. Still worry it will turn into a listfest again. Pharmboy (talk) 01:14, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
• Keep This article is acceptable. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 05:24, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - (nom) I didn't think that this article could be anything more than a dicdef. Clearly, I was wrong. Dhartung has given the article some much needed context, demonstrating that the article can be expanded, and Addhoc has axed the trivia, which pretty much eliminates my concerns. --Bongwarrior (talk) 09:38, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
• Keep There's a reason why Isabelle Eberhardt's novel is called 'Vagabond' rather than 'Vagrant' or 'Tramp', historically and culturally speaking they're not the same thing at all. It amazes me that people can be so insistent that an article can never been improved, on the basis of no research whatsoever, when they so often are thanks to the efforts of people like Dhartung.Nick mallory (talk) 14:11, 25 December 2007 (UTC) Nick mallory (talk) 14:11, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
• Strong keep. Nice job of recovery and now unquestionably useful. --Lockley (talk) 06:35, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.