Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Usherette Trixie
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep ~ Anthøny 19:40, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Usherette Trixie
This article is the only remaining character article existing on characters from "The Rocky Horror Show". It is a non-notable character and in fact may not be a character at all. No references are cited or can be found to substantiate the claims made on the page. Amadscientist 23:40, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- Delete - Not notable enough to keep. Not sourced or referenced. Information can be added to "The Rocky Horror Show"--Amadscientist 00:03, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
- Delete as per Amadscientist. --Moonriddengirl 17:14, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - the character certainly exists. "Unsourced" doesn't mean "unsourcable" and as the only character from the stage show not to carry over to the film Trixie has some encyclopedic significance. In the alternative, merge this and other character articles into a List of Rocky Horror characters. Otto4711 13:11, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- Comment - No, the character really does not exist. Usherette is merely the character of Magenta in another costume. None of the scripts name the usherette. References that do mention this state clearly that only the costume or prop carried by the actress has given a name to any particular production. In the original London production they "called" her "Miss Strawberry time" because of the markings on the tray that was carried. In the Roxie production they called her Trixie due to the name placed on the costume.( Neither was in any official capacity.) However to call it a character is simply incorrect and not factual as the script does not give it a name and most importantly there is no credit for the character. Wish all you want but Usherette Trixie is not an actual character. Also there simply are no other characters with articles other than Brad and Janet and they face deletion as well. All other character articles have long been deleted and redirected.--Amadscientist 03:34, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
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- I'm sorry, but it is simply not accurate to claim that an actor in a different costume is not playing different parts. For instance, the original Belasco Theatre production and the production that debuted November 2000 list the usherettes as separate characters. Otto4711 16:05, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
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- Thank you for showing that, however I don't know that that proves anything as both credtis are different. The 1975 prodoction is the same cast from the Roxie. The costume gave her the name and It was not credited there. The 2000 production does not give the Usherete a name again. It is Magenta in another costume and even Patricia Quinn qestioned whether or not it was a seperate character and she created Magenta. It is not accurate to start a page for "Usherette Trixie" when it was only credited in a single production of literally hundreds of proffessional productions. You would also need a page for Miss Strawberry time and for just Usherete.
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- If there are reliable sources that discuss the character, the name issue, Quinn's confusion, etc. then what else do you think is needed for an encyclopedia article? Move it to Usherette (Rocky Horror) if having "Trixie" in the title bothers you. The deletion of the articles for other characters has no bearing on this article. Otto4711 16:39, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.