Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Untrihexium

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus to delete. Johnleemk | Talk 09:26, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Untrihexium

The article Untrihexium should be deleted. The article indicates that element 136 is the "last chemically stable element" according to classical physics, because electrons in element 137 would travel at the speed of light. In fact, the last chemically stable element according to the Bohr model is element 137, as is correctly stated in the article Untriseptium. (They can't both be the last chemically stable element!) That electrons in the 1s state of element 137 have a velocity less than the speed of light in the Bohr model is easily verified, using the equation in the Untriseptium page: This formula can be verified in any indtroductory physics textbook that includes modern physics, such as Giancoli. 67.186.28.212 15:45, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

• Keep and correct if in error. An incorrect statement about a real element is not reason enough to delete the article. BD2412 T 16:15, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
• Keep per BD2412. - Sikon 16:26, 24 November 2005 (UTC) Abstain per new arguments. - Sikon 05:24, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
• Fix the errors, and keep.' 142.205.241.145 18:11, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
• Weak keep. Wikipedia has untripentium too. Fix the error. Durova 18:59, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete I didn't notice the redirect. Perhaps the nomination doesn't explain things well enough to nontechnical people. This is not "a real element" in normal sense. It's a prediction. Element 137 is theoretically significant. Element 136 is an insignificant prediction. The editor who created this article made a mistake. There's nothing worth keeping because fixing the error renders this very non-notable.
  • The heaviest element found in nature is uranium, element number 92. The heaviest element the IUPAC recognizes as created in the laboratory is meitnerium, element 109. That's only 17 elements created in more than 60 years. We're not likely to see 136 or 137 in our lifetimes. Durova 23:00, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
    • Ununquadium was synthesised long ago. Besides, why would IUPAC give proper names for darmstadtium and roentgenium? - Sikon 02:09, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
      • Has it been confirmed? If so then another page needs an update. That's beside the point for this discussion. Durova 10:47, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
• Remark: Untripentium does NOT have an entry; it redirects to Systematic element name. Untrihexium, like Untripentium, does NOT exist; if there's nothing theoretically interesting about it, and experimentally it doesn't exist, there should be no independent entry: only a redirect. 67.186.28.212 21:35, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
• Comment: that an element is theoretical does not make it non-notable, if the possibility of its existence is seriously discussed in the relevant scientific community. BD2412 T 03:51, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Other theoretical elements with similar atomic weights do not receive Wikipedia articles. Only 137 is theoretically significant. Durova 10:53, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Is element 136 is discussed at all, experimentally or theoretically, in the scientific literature? I have not been able to turn it up in my favorite database (Ingenta). 67.186.28.212 15:08, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Let me put it another way: if the theoretical existence of element 136 has been discussed in the literature, that information is not contained in the current article on element 136. If the demonstrably erroneous information is removed from the article, the article will have zero information content. 67.186.28.212 15:36, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
• Merge into systematic element name and redirect. No Account 23:53, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and cleanup. Stifle 00:49, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
• Merge with articles for all elements of atomic number higher than 116 (the heaviest element produced/discovered so far) and put them under something like Theoretical chemical elements. B.Wind 08:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.