Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United Stated

This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page, if it exists; or after the end of this archived section. The result of the debate was to redirect to United States. CDC (talk) 28 June 2005 23:36 (UTC)

[edit] United Stated

Neologism, which appears to have been coined by the article creator. This is part of the article creator's campaign to remove all uses of the term "American" to refer to residents of the United States. He has made such stylistic changes to numerous articles, despite lack of consensus and repeated requests to desist. Firebug 01:23, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Redirect (without merge, of course) to United States. Pretty common typo, as Google results show. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 01:30, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, I dislike the Wikipedia creating pages for misspelling as there are far too many of them. -Splash 01:43, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, then redirect. -Sean Curtin 01:44, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete without redirect or merge. Non-encyclopedic, unsourced (and apparently ultra-neo-)neologism. Unable to find a single Google hit matching this usage. Kevin Wells 01:53, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete and then redirect, per Gtrmp: I don't want to preserve any of this, even if we make an error-space redirect. Besides, there was already a semi-successful attempt at an alternative to "American": Frank Lloyd Wright's "Usonian." Geogre 01:55, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect without merge to United States. As mentioned above, it's a common typo. — J3ff 02:08, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Yes, it must be a common typo. Also because it was me who made it. It seems like that user saw the typo I made in the Vila Sésamo article (Brazilian version of Sesame Street), and immediately liked it for some reason. I had no intentions of coining anything at all. I just wanted "American" to point to United States. All normal, all old style. In the end, it's pretty weird that this happened. That said, I think the article should be deleted, yeah. Not sure if it's a good idea to turn it into a redirect because it's a common typo, but that could be done.--Kaonashi 02:49, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, get rid of it, no typo, do we need a page for 600,000 typos that could occur? This is utter rubbish. You cannot say 'stated' you just can't.--0001 02:57, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • This user, created today, has only edited VfD and his own user page —Wahoofive (talk) 04:23, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • We don't have pages for spelling errors that could occur. We do however have a semi-policy of redirects for spelling errors that do occur, and that evidently have occurred because someone has created at article at them. Uncle G 11:14, 2005 Jun 20 (UTC)
  • "stated" is the past tense of "to state", and can be easily said by anyone fluent in English. — Phil Welch 02:48, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete and redirect Cleduc 02:59, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete and redirect as above. In response to 0001, of course you can't have redirects for every variations, but for common ones such as this, redirects aid in making Wikipedia more user-friendly. 23skidoo 03:13, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • In response to 23skidoo. The name of Earth's sole superpower is one of the five most recognisable and UNMISTAKABLE phrases in world culture. Poor farmers in Tiber know 'United States'. So, we need United Star, Unity States, Umpteen States, as redirects? or united statew, statea, statex (because those keys are near the 's'?? Come on! user friendly. To we really want to be friendly to users who don't know the name of the US?--0001 03:36, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Redirects waste almost no space. I wouldn't create those typos as redirects, but when they arrive at vfd, it might as well be done. Xoloz 04:34, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect common typo Xoloz 04:32, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect. I mistype 's' and 'd' frequently. Pburka 04:45, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect for simplicity. DJ Clayworth 05:33, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete I see no reason to put in redirects for typos and misspellings. People who make them will quickly see their mistake when the expect results fails to appear. I see no reason to contribute to the dumbening of society. --Xcali 05:47, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Quite often, they do not see their mistake, and they instead believe that Wikipedia is missing an article, follow the instructions at Mediawiki:noarticletext, and create duplicate articles. The argument for redirecting such articles is that deleting them would not prevent the same process from (wastefully) happening all over again, repeatedly. That is not the situation here, as this is a deliberate neologism. However, one editor has already stated that xe actually made this particular spelling mistake, so the semi-policy of redirecting a spelling mistake that has occurred and that someone has created an article at can be applied. Uncle G 11:14, 2005 Jun 20 (UTC)
  • A few days ago I Redirected George W Bush to George W. Bush because apparently the author really thought the article did not exist. If we delete the aricle it would encourage people to re-create the typo'd article, whereas redirecting it would make it convinient to those who make typos. —Kjammer 18:19, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete agree with Xcali. JamesBurns 07:28, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect common typo. Kappa 10:26, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• A spelling mistake that has occurred and that someone has created an article for (albeit, unusually for such situations, coining a neologism rather than creating a duplicate article). Redirect (deleting first according to taste). Uncle G 11:14, 2005 Jun 20 (UTC)
• Delete. W i k i a c c 14:11, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect per Andrew Lenahan as a spelling error and nothing but. --Unfocused 14:45, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Resirect. I midtype 'd' and 's' frequently. the wub "?/!" 15:04, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect as with Unites States. — P Ingerson (talk) 17:23, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect Common typo, the "s" and the "d" keys are right next to eachother on an english keyboard (if you havn't noticed alredy). —Kjammer 18:19, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• DeleteAgree with original reason Barneygumble 20:57, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Well, I guess the standard human behavior in this situation would just consist of looking at what they typed (after getting an error screen) and going "Oh, I typed it wrong". I find it real hard that a person would just give up because of a small typo like that. Harder even would see someone creating a new article, thinking an article about the United States doesn't exist here. I think they'd just check their mistakes first before doing something like that. I don't know. And yeah, this is coming from someone that didn't check his mistakes to begin with.--Kaonashi 21:06, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect to United States. I don't quite want to suggest "redirect all typos" as a policy, because I agree with Redirects for deletion/Precedents about extremely rare typos. This one isn't extremely rare. Moreover, the majority of words listed on Alternative words for American do not have their own entries, and the three words that do have attained notability justifying articles. Interestingly, "United Stated" isn't on that page, and even if it is a legitimate "alternative word for American", I don't think the phrase deserves its own entry, as compared to the rest of the terms at that article. I'd say this is non-notable dicdef, but due to the typo consideration, it needs to become a redirect rather than get deleted. The Literate Engineer 00:18, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Undecided. If it doesn't legitimately exist as a neologism, then delete. (I've never heard it, but that doesn't prove anything.) Also it's not correct grammatically or semantically. Peter Grey 05:05, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• delete. No point in a redirect, they're for misspellings, not typos. Considering each key on a keyboard is surrounded by 6 others that are likely to be hit by accident, we could have 6x6x6x6 redirects for any 4 letter word, all being "common" typos. I really don't think we'll see an article saying "The United Stated is a big country in north america..." if this is deleted. -R. fiend 15:49, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment Out of curiosity, what's the difference between a misspelling and a typo? Either way, you didn't type the right spelling in. The Literate Engineer 05:47, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment A misspelling is something you might wilfully, if wrongly, search for while a typo is something you never meant to search for in the first place.-Splash 12:39, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
• Note: there had been a "Move to Wiktionary" tag on there since before the vfd tag. I've removed it since it seems pretty obvious to me we don't want this in a dictionary. Comments? --Dmcdevit 08:22, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • No, neologisms do not belong on any wiki, no matter which one. -- Francs2000 | Talk 14:11, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Do not redirect, it makes no sense. Pavel Vozenilek 01:33, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete -- Francs2000 | Talk 14:11, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be placed on a related article talk page, if one exists; in an undeletion request, if it does not; or below this section.