Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/UngBDSM

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 10:59, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] UngBDSM

Procedural nomination. Was an A7 candidate, but contested by author of article. Appearing on Norwegian national radio is an assertion of notability and thus A7 does not apply. Neutral for me. ColourBurst 04:40, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep, seems like a notable organisation to me. JIP | Talk 05:50, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. 2 Google hits (and I ran both a .co.uk Google and a .no one) -- Steel 12:41, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

The webpages are so new, they haven't been indexed yet. Also many BDSM sites do not allow indexing -- Magggg 16:30, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, appearing on Norwegian national radio is an assertion of notability, but not a very strong one. Doesn't seem to be notable even in the community and certainly not in general. Recury 16:51, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. They can assert it, but they haven't proven it. --Aaron 18:15, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete no verifiable sources to prove they meet WP:WEB. (and may I just add BDSM for 16 year olds ewww...) Wildthing61476 18:19, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

At first the minimum age was 18 years, but we felt 16 years old should rather be allowed to get information from us, then from other, less positive sources Magggg 19:48, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

• Merge into Mark Foley scandal and delete. --Aaron 18:44, 5 October 2006 (UTC) (Just kidding!)
• Comment: How is this BDSM organisation significantly less notable than, say, SMFR? No one is questioning the notability of SMFR. Yet I'm the only user who has ever non-trivially edited that article, its Alexa ranking is over 1'760'000, and apart from the very first Google hits it gets (its official website and the Wikipedia article I wrote about it), by far the most are false hits, because the abbreviation SMFR has dozens of meanings. All mainstream media attention SMFR has ever had is a few, extremely short, mentions of its club nights in Helsingin Sanomat, and lately a brief article explaining the BDSM scene from an outsider's point of view. JIP | Talk 19:34, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
• Comment You make a strong case to nominate SMFR for deletion then too, unless there is another reason the group is notable. Wildthing61476 19:40, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
  • On the other hand, SMFR is by far the most famous BDSM organisation in the entire city of Helsinki. It is the only public one, and the only one known to mainstream media. SMFR, founded in 1996, is a legally registered organisation (RY, ryhmäyhdistys). It is one of the two Finnish BDSM organisations to have its own closed discussion forum on Tuntematon Maa. JIP | Talk 21:48, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

• Comment Thank you for the clarification then. Wildthing61476 01:31, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

• Comment Feel free to delete the article, if you think it's not notable enough. I'll recontribute when there is more documentation of notability available. :-) Magggg 19:56, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete nn which fails WP:WEB, Tewfik^Talk 02:51, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.