Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Uncanny X-Men 267

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 02:52, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Uncanny X-Men 267

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Indiscriminate plot summary of a random issue of Uncanny X-Men. No reason is given why this particular issue needs a summary while the 484 others don't. Articles on comics history should generally discuss story arcs, not individual issues. This article might be a good fit for a site that compiles lists of comic book summaries, but Wikipedia is not that site. Crotalus horridus (TALK • CONTRIBS) 06:31, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

  • keep As you have already researched this issue, you will know that this is an early issue from a popular comic book creator on a very popular comic book title and origin of popular comic book character. Other significance of this issue includes the way this issue was completed by a trio of 3 artists under short timeframe, and they had success. There seems to be significant history on this specific issue on how the issue was completed, which seemed to suggest this should be called out at your excellent wiki. You already have pages for the 3 artists (Lee, Portacio, Williams) plus the 2 key characters in the book, plus the comic book team, publisher, but this issue also sites the creation of the original artwork and the process behind it. Rather than have this entry be about only original art, I thought writing about the issue and the artistic collaboration be of value to others viewing this wiki. There are no other entries on original comic book art in wikipedia, a fast growing hobby with investment potential, as well as auctions/sales of original art in the tens of thousands of dollars per page, garnering worldwide attention when artwork becomes available or has traded hands. please reconsider keeping this page but assisting in how it should be categorized and wording of content. Burtons
  • Delete There are almost 500 issues of this comic, and since issues are just part of story arcs I see no reason for any individual issue to have an article (even articles on the story arcs might be too much). Also nothing notable about this one, since the only "notable" point is that it was the first one to have Gambit drawn by his creator. TJ Spyke 08:57, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
  • keep notable issue... Gambit is one of the best known Marvel characters. Article can be sourced, seems fine. --W.marsh 13:44, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom and TJ Spyke. The fact that the artists created the issue on a tight deadline does not confer notability. --Metropolitan90 17:51, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete We can't list each and every "notable issue" of Uncanny X-Men or any other comic book; this article violates WP:NOT --Mhking 22:20, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
    • Er why can't we? The only thing WP:NOT really has to say on this topic is that Wikipedia is not paper, and that "this means that there is no practical limit to the number of topics we can cover, or the total amount of content, other than verifiability". Please actually read the section under "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information" before citing that, because it doesn't cover an article like this. --W.marsh 00:07, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletions. -- -- Ben 03:18, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Very weak delete. I'm strongly against the worries about setting a bad precedent; the fear that this needs to be nipped in the bud now because we dont want an article on all 500 odd issues is a straw man. There are only two articles on the individual issues, and there are articles for most episodes of many TV shows. So, it is possible. But it needs to be done well. The sources in this case are unsatisfactory; I'm worried about the link to http://www.11by17.com/uxm267.htm as those images appear to be a copyvio. More sources will make me happy. John Vandenberg 10:21, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - per WP:NOT#PAPER. We can and should list every notable issue of every comic. Improve instead of delete. - Peregrine Fisher 04:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per Crotalus horridus. Hokey smokes, they don't get much less notable than this. Captain Infinity 20:18, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.