Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ultimate Logging System Professional

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. Essjay (Talk • Connect) 10:19, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ultimate Logging System Professional

NN, vanity, spam. 231 Google hits, excluding Wikipedia and Answers.com results. Moe Aboulkheir 02:43, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete, nn, spam. --Terence Ong 03:43, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. --Srikeit(talk ¦ ✉) 06:09, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. SM247 06:30, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Paddles TC 07:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Do not delete this is a knowledge base for people to know how trackers work the100rabh 11:34, 3 June 2006 (IST)
  • Strong Keep. Reasons below:
    1. Not vanity: all contents are verifiable through the softwares website: http://www.ulsp.info/. Moreover, technology of ULSP is, to some extent, unique among web-based programs. This makes ULSP noting-worthwhile and non-vanity.
    2. ULSP is notable: ULSP website's visit count is 1266810 since November 2005, and currently has 17314 users. It is known by most Xangans in Hong Kong. Previous vandalism content about how to attack the system [1] also gives evidence that ULSP is notable.
    3. Non-neutral does not mean should delete. Instead, they should be kept and improved.
    4. Please give evidence (link etc.) to show that you yielded only 231 Google hits. According to my search on Google Hong Kong with the keyword "Ultimate Logging System Professional | ULSP", 25,800 hits were found; whereas a Yahoo Hong Kong search of "ULSP" yielded 3,330 hits and a site category (Yahoo Hong Kong doesn't provide an "inclusive or" searching function between two multi-word keywords). As many articles and reviews about ULSP referenced the program using the initials "ULSP" instead of the full name "Ultimate Logging System Professional" and were written in Chinese, it is necessary for one to turn off the language filter and include the initials "ULSP" in the search in order to yield more balancing results.
    Therefore, I believe the nominator's argument does not hold owing to his lack of knowledge about the background of the program, and the article should be kept. --Deryck C. 07:17, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
NN means "non-notable", not "non-neutral". With regard to your google-fu, ULSP is an acronym with a variety of uses (Ultra Low Special Products, University of Louisville Summer Program, Upson-Lee South Primary School, etc). Similarly, the words "ultimate", "logging", "system" and "professional" are, as I'm sure you know, extremely common. The exact query I used to produce the 231 number was "ultimate logging system professional" -wikipedia -answers.com, which now (several days later) yields only 196 results. Similarly, "ultimate logging system professional" alone only yields 251 results. Searching for ULSP xanga, and making the assumption that every single result is a reference to Ultimate Logging System Professional, then we get roughly 9,500 results. My vote - delete - still stands. Moe Aboulkheir 17:01, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.