Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/US gang graffiti in Iraq
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 09:04, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] US gang graffiti in Iraq
not encyclopaedic, belongs in wikinews Xorkl000 21:46, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- Keep and cleanup. Several WP:RS have commented on the phenomena over the span of two years; I suspect if we go back further to the 1991 Gulf War we'll find similar commentary (indeed, I knew vets who commented on it at the time). csloat 22:19, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- Keep If Pravda writes about it, it must be The Truth. Actually multiple sources confer notability. ~ trialsanderrors 22:35, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- Keep but move to new stub Gang members in the United States military with this current content as a section. I think the important aspect of this phenomenon are that they are gang members serving in the US military - the graffiti is just a sign that they are there. (Actually, I would have liked to recommend a merge to an article on US gangs, but I can't find one, and Gang is in bad shape, and I don't want to recommend a merge there.) Bwithh 23:19, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Newsweek ran a story "Gangstas in the ranks" about gang membership in the US military in 1995 and mentions that it was a concern of the Dept. of Justice in 1994[1]. Probably goes back further especially with conscription periods. I've seen posts claiming that this was going on with the Black Hand in the US Civil War but with no backup. Bwithh 23:46, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- I hope they do a storyline about this on The Shield or The Wire (TV series) <=P Bwithh 00:02, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, the Ramparts scandal in L.A. (upon which The Shield is based) was caused by the hiring of gang members as police officers. Keep, this is an important cultural phenomenon. Allon Fambrizzi 01:33, 21 November 2006 (UTC)Allon Fambrizzi
- True, but that's LAPD not military Bwithh 01:48, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, the Ramparts scandal in L.A. (upon which The Shield is based) was caused by the hiring of gang members as police officers. Keep, this is an important cultural phenomenon. Allon Fambrizzi 01:33, 21 November 2006 (UTC)Allon Fambrizzi
- Move to Gang members in the United States military per above. Zarbat 05:34, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
- Note - "move" means "keep" for the purpose of this discussion, since a page move is easily accomplished with the "move" tab at the top of the page. (Though such a move should not take place until after the AfD). I would endorse the move recommended here. csloat 22:22, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
- Delete fails WP:NOTE. Tulkolahten 12:08, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per csloat and Bwithh (I'm fine with the merging to the suggested title). --Oakshade 16:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- Keep I think the article describes an interesting phenomenon reported by RS, moving the article can be discussed later in the article's talk page. As an alternative, you can start Gang members in the United States military and propose a merger. JRSP 19:37, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
