Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tuxes

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The result was delete. Sr13 07:17, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tuxes

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Unreleased book by vanity press. Questionable notability. WP:NOT a crystal ball, at the very least. Deproded by author with no explanation.

• Keep - Tuxes is in fact available for pre-ordering - see Amazon. BeachSidePress is not a vanity press - Mr. Fivelson has never paid us. Some additional information about publishing that may shed some light on the subject: it is usual practice in the industry to begin selling a book many months before its publication date. And the book is available on Amazon and from our website now. I beg the question: what determines the existence of a book - sales, or the passing of the publication date which by common definition is a fiction. (See inside Kramer's 1001 Ways to Market Books) Respectfully, Ron Beachsidepress 06:49, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scott Fivelson, AFD nomination for the author. eaolson 17:10, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - Fails WP:BK. As noted above, the book has not yet been published. Speculation as to whether it will meet WP:BK after publication is pure crystal ball. Victoriagirl 00:08, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - same as Victoriagirl. With additional comment - as said by BeachSide Press, it does not appear to be a vanity press, but a brand new small press. Their site states that they pay royalties, do not charge the author a fee, both the reverse from vanity press practices. Felisse 19:24, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, the author will pass AfD, but the book still doesn't meet WP:BK. Coren 02:40, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 00:43, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, fails WP:RS and WP:CRYSTAL. John Vandenberg 02:58, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

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