Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Turkish Cypriot Genocide
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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was keep (no consensus to delete). Renaming to a less POV title may be in order. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Turkish Cypriot Genocide
POV rant, POV title, nothing to merge anywhere. RickK 22:47, May 14, 2005 (UTC)
'agreed -Irredeemable delete--Doc Glasgow 22:52, 14 May 2005 (UTC)Delete. POV rant. El_C 23:03, 14 May 2005 (UTC)—- Keep. El_C 10:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. POV. DoubleBlue (Talk) 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, POV rant. Megan1967 03:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, POV. Not factual. Tobycat 05:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
- I've taken a look at the revised edits and agree that the new text improves the NPOV but I still have very strong reservations about the title of this article. I believe it is best resolved by deleting the article and merging its improved content onto either the Cyprus article or the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus article. Both articles seem a more appropriate place for this content rather than a stand alone article. Additionally, I believe it will be easier to maintain the NPOV if this content is integrated into one of the above articles as there is more context available.Tobycat 01:50, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. EvilPhoenix
- Delete. A sequence of yucks ran 'round the table. Andrewa 14:03, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Delete, while there may be a valid concern for the persecution of the Cypriot people and the need for an article of some sort, this article's POV and content don't fit the bill... Chiacomo 20:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
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- Keep, article is shaping up nicely. Well done, editor. --Chiacomo 13:36, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Expatkiwi This article needs to be edited though to be more detached and free of overt bias. Removal really does not solve anything. I did edit it the best way I could so to keep things as matter-of-fact as possible. 20:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
What are you talking about? You can delete this page from here because the passion for greeks might have turned your eyes blind, but you cannot delete the unescapable reality of the Turkish Cypriot Genocide from the history.
We'll make you an offer. If you can bring back the thousands of innoncent Turkish Cypriot men,women and babies murdered between 1963 and 1974(the peace operation of Turkey) back to life, the Turkish Cypriot Nation will be absolutely happy to forget about the genocide.
Can you do so?
If not be respectful to the memory of the victims of the Turkish Cypriot Genocide.
- KEEP The Soul of Thousands of Turkish Cypriots Murdered Until the Peace Operation of Turkey
Article is renewed, prove that the Turkish Cypriot Genocide is not a fact or withdraw your offer of deletation.Article can no more be classified as a page for deletation due to the fact that Armenian Genocide which is not on the list of deletation uses absolutely the same wording. If you'll delete this page, delete that also.
- Comment: Please sign your contributions here, user 85.99.30.204, otherwise they will probably be simply ignored. They will also carry more weight if in the standard format, and if concise and to the point. Andrewa 09:50, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
- Keep after Expatkiwi's able edits. This is a good start for expansion. A Man In Black 07:50, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Paffka Article can use some editting and expansion, however. No significant bias appears. 14:40, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
- Keep --130.232.129.242 10:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
- this article is much improved and if the info isn't elsewhere it should be kept. But I have grave concerns about the title's NPOV. Genocide is a very strong word. The article admits it is what the Turkish call the incident - not the Greeks - and apparently not other parties either ('Turkish Cypriot Genocide' yields only 4 sites on google and all are strongly POV). I'll change my delete vote for a strong rename - but unfortunately I don't know enough about this to make a suggestion.--Doc Glasgow 14:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: Agree that it's much improved, but I still don't think it's encyclopedic. The article itself now states that this genocide claim is used by one side of the conflict. To me the title still seems to be more a political slogan than an encyclopedia topic. My suggestion is that we delete this and invite those who've done good work on it to add their material to the articles we already have on the conflict. I also notice that the talk page has now been blanked. No change of vote. Andrewa 00:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
- this article is much improved and if the info isn't elsewhere it should be kept. But I have grave concerns about the title's NPOV. Genocide is a very strong word. The article admits it is what the Turkish call the incident - not the Greeks - and apparently not other parties either ('Turkish Cypriot Genocide' yields only 4 sites on google and all are strongly POV). I'll change my delete vote for a strong rename - but unfortunately I don't know enough about this to make a suggestion.--Doc Glasgow 14:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
- This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.