Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Turkic Muslims and the West

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. (ESkog)(Talk) 03:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Turkic Muslims and the West

Doesn't seem to be needed. And besides, shouldn't it be Turkish, not Turkic?
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01:29, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Turkish are citizens of Turkey. Turkic are members of an ethnic group. Fan-1967 01:35, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
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  • Turkic people are all the descendents of the Monglian invaders from central Asia.Turks are one among Turkic people. Eventhough the Turkic people and the Arabs are both Muslim, they have been treated very differently by the United States and the West.This article was written to highlight the good relationships between the Turkic people (who are Muslim and tthe United States and the West whereas the Arab Muslims have been demonized in the West.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephanie thomas (talk • contribs)
  • Delete for being pretty POV and suchlike. What's salvageable can be moved to articles which already exist on Turkic peoples and the countries in question. BigHaz 03:16, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
  • This article tries to deliniate the differences between how the United States has related to Turkic Muslims versus Arab Muslims.Turkic people are an ethnic group and the common ancestor of the Turkic people are the Mongolians.The Turkic people occupy lands ranging from Turkmenistan to Turkey.Turkic is not the same as Turkish .Turkish people belong to the Turkic ethnic group but not all Turkic people are Turkish.In this article I tried to explain that the relationship between Islam , the West and the United States is not black and white but is riddled with complexities.Arab Muslims have been treated very differently by the United States than the Turkic Muslims.This article is critical for a better understanding of the complex relationship of the United States to Muslims because an important area that has not received enough attention is highlighted.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephanie thomas (talk • contribs)
Comment all of which is very useful, but more than a little POV. There are detailed articles on each of the Turkic populations with their own country and usable ones on those without, which is where I'd suggest this information belongs. Additionally, the page currently has the Chechens as Turkic, which they are not (although I'll fix that immediately I finish typing this). BigHaz 03:38, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong delete unsourced, POV. The first paragraph (which is the only part that should be retained if this discussion closes with a keep) could be merged into, say, Turkic Muslims or similar, and the rest is just stereotyping. Kimchi.sg 04:47, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, unsourced, fails WP:NPOV. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 05:27, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Simply impossible to write a non-Point Of View article about the relationship between an ethnic group spread over several countries and the many governments that make up the rather hazily-defined "West".Vizjim 13:12, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as being original research. In spite of the creator's good intentions, treating all Turkic muslims as one diffuse mass, as the article does, is meaningless. --LambiamTalk 19:29, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.