Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Troy Cory

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete' --Haemo 00:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Troy Cory

Troy Cory (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Not-Notable. Fails WP:BIO. Sc straker 19:48, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Expanded reason: Fails WP:BIO for creative professionals. Be aware when doing Google searches, that websites such as super90.com and yes90.com are websites owned and maintained by the Cory family and are not valid independent sources. This Troy Cory article was created by the subjects daughter, Priscilla Cory so also violates COI. His IMDB entry is also maintained by her. --Sc straker 19:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Update: I am also nominating the following related pages because [see above]:

   :The Troy Cory Evening Show (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
   :The Troy Cory Show (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
   :List of LPs and CDs and Singles Recorded By Troy Cory (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

• • Comment Where, exactly, was it proved that "Beatress" is his daughter? Edison 23:53, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

• Comment - sorry, my assumption. A user id "Beatress" on IMDB signs her forum posts as "Priscilla Cory" so I assumed, at least on IMDB, that "Beatress" there is "Priscilla Cory" as evidenced by the forum signatures. Her IMDB page as well as her father's seem to be well embellished by the user "Beatress" as mentioned in the forums. Here on WP, a user named "Beatress" has primarily edited Cory family-related articles so I stuck my neck out and assumed it was the same as the self-promoting "Beatress" on IMDB. Sorry for my assumption. But I would be more than happy to apologize if the Beatress here and the Beatress on IMDB are two separate individuals. Please visit the IMDB forums on the Priscilla Cory page for more info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sc straker (talk • contribs) 01:40, 4 October 2007 (UTC) --Sc straker 01:47, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:BIO, WP:RS, and WP:COI. STORMTRACKER 94 19:56, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, failing WP:BAND and WP:BIO, not to mention WP:COI, and don't forget to include the affiliated sites Priscilla Cory and List of LPs and CDs and Singles Recorded By Troy Cory. And, if you act today to trace down the links, you'll learn that there's a small error in the Wikipedia article -- it's not "BBC Radioplay" records, like the famous British label, it's "VRA Radioplay" -- whose entire output is the complete recordings of Troy Cory and affiliated musicians. And that's not all! You can learn that the entire filmic output of Priscilla Cory is 14, count them, 14, uncredited appearances in films and one 1978 MOW!! Don't delay -- delete today! Accounting4Taste 20:16, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I have to add that further reading of the article revealed one thing that just might confer notability -- if it's true that he was the first American entertainer allowed to perform in China. However, this nugget was so overlaid with self-promotion that I missed it the first time through. I also apologize for being not-very-funny above, this is serious stuff to this individual judging by the amount of work that went into the loads of self-promotion that I found. As near as I can tell, the books are all published by the same company, "Television International Pub.", and that company doesn't seem to have any other publications except those by Troy Cory cited. His relatives, of course, don't confer any notability, and the interaction between Troy Cory and Priscilla Cory and their mutual enterprises is a "walled garden". Accounting4Taste 20:30, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment Add Dorothy Swofford to the walled garden. Accounting4Taste 20:36, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment its was priceless! I lol'd. It should be preserved in the wp archives. --Sc straker 20:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete above per Accounting4Taste as well as The Troy Cory Show and The Troy Cory Evening Show (identical). No evidence of real notability. The only references to "Cory" aka Keith Stubblefield in Google News Archive pertain to a pay dispute and to his efforts to promote his relative Nathan B. Stubblefield as the inventor of radio. (As for super90.com, it's like a trip back to the 1990s web!) --Dhartung | Talk 20:23, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - Per all, nothing to be said --Childzy ¤ Talk 20:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per above. I hadn't seen so many templates in one article At least not since there was a two-sentence article that had four templates. until I saw this one. Also see Dorothy Swafford. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 21:27, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
• Comment Would a dozen or so stories related to his purchase and operation and eventual sale of a radio station WNBS in Murray, Ky count for something toward notability? How about several stories about his efforts to gain recognition in 1992 for the accomplishments of his inventor-grandfather, which gained press coverage [1] and were discussed in a book [2] free of the conflict of interest problems of Cory's own website and books? Edison 23:50, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Comment I'm anxious to keep an open mind on this and I am willing to be convinced of Troy Cory's notability. I see the book at [www.nathanstubblefield.com] as being primarily about his grandfather, who does indeed seem to be notable. I'm having a hard time locating the dozen or so stories about radio station WNBS; it's not cited in the article about him, but I have Googled a number of references to one or more videos (most of the locations seem to be, as above, on websites controlled by this gentleman, and YouTube). Are these what you're referring to? Really, folks, I'm now very sorry I tried to be funny above, because if this man has notability, I want to help him demonstrate it to everyone's satisfaction. Yes, he's done a lot of self-promotion, but there's the potential for notability in some of these items and I want to investigate it properly. Accounting4Taste 00:11, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

The page here [3] gives two of the stories referred to, in which Troy Cory is mentioned, with dates in 1991. Accounting4Taste 00:30, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I'll now suggest that Mr. Cory should have a sentence or two in the article about Nathan Stubblefield, his grandfather -- according to [4], he went to jail for a couple of days in connection with his attempts to demonstrate that his grandfather invented radio. Accounting4Taste 00:43, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Comment I'll meet you there, Accounting4Taste. He probably is notable enough to be mentioned in the Stubblefield article. But I believe those articles cited are only notable or of interest in Murray, KY or perhaps statewide KY. Certainly not notable enough to have his own page. Plus don't be sorry for your humor, it made my day ;) --Sc straker 01:29, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.