Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trim Road (Ottawa)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Nishkid64 20:06, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trim Road (Ottawa)

I tagged this for proposed deletion; this was removed as, apparently, not being from Ottawa, I am unqualified to comment on whether or not a three line article about a wholly unremarkable road deserves to be in Wikipedia. Refraining from expressing my opinion on that comment, this article fails WP:NOT - Wikipedia is not a travel guide. It also has no worth whatsoever to an encyclopaedia, it's of the form 'road X is a road in Y, and goes through places A, B, and C.' There are many articles of this nature on Category:Ottawa roads, this is just one of them. Oh, and it's unreferenced, too. Delete. Proto::type 09:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete I lived in the area for a while; Trim Road is not notable. I might as well write an article on Saddletown Circle NE or Heritage Drive SW. --Charlene 10:45, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
• KEEP Trim Road is in the growth area of The Capital of Canada,and the network of roads in the Ottawa area is one of the ways that articles on the NCR are being organized. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmacd123 (talk • contribs)
• Delete - Roads typically aren't in need of their own article due to the lack of encyclopedic information on them. Wickethewok 14:37, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - Roads are only notable if part of a provincial highway system. This isn't, and never was. Kirjtc2 18:00, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
  • No, but remember Ontario's road system is very different. There are very few actual provincial highways in Ontario considering its size. There are however a sizable number of county roads or regional roads, which this falls under. Many of them are just if not more notable than your average tertiary highway in New Brunswick. -- Earl Andrew - talk 03:31, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you assume provincial highways are notable, other roads are not. Frankly, if this sort of thing is deleted, we should also be deleting many of the provincial highway articles -- some of those highways really just are not significant. Skeezix1000 12:18, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - While it might not be necessary a notable route right now, it will definitely be in the upcoming years due to the rapid growth of Orleans and Cumberland. If the article is deleted it will likely be re-created in a year or two as major development is planned in the area of Trim Road and will be an equally important commuter route then neighborhing Tenth Line Road and the route will likely be equally notable then Innes Road the main E-W commuter route (besides the 174) in Orleans. So I suggest not to delete this.--JForget 20:22, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment - Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. 'It's not notable but it will be in the future' is not a valid reason to keep an article.Proto::type 09:38, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep This road is a notable road for being in Ottawa central; you wouldn't delete Trafalgar Square just because it's a road article, would you?? --SunStar Net 20:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment - no, being in the centre of Ottawa (or any city) doesn't magically confer notability. Proto::type 09:38, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Apples and oranges. This isn't Portage and Main, Yonge Street, Bank Street or even the 174, it's a local suburban road. Kirjtc2 21:19, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: The proposal of the deletion of the route should be discussed among users of the WikiProject Ottawa instead as it was mentionned in the article history .--JForget 20:26, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Why? Are they special Wikipedia users with special rights? Proto::type 09:38, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
• KEEP--and perhaps the recent comments on the WikiProject Ottawa site should also be considered. -- Bacl-presby 20:29, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletions. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 01:47, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. Remember, Trim Road is a numbered highway, and unless we delete all those Texas Farm to Town Road articles, this should deffinately stay. -- Earl Andrew - talk 03:27, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
• Comment no reason given to keep the article. Proto::type 09:38, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Yes it is a reason. I am saying since debates such as these have been made about similar roads and have been kept, the same thing should apply here. What makes Texas more important than Canada? -- Earl Andrew - talk 14:03, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - Trim Road is designated as an Ottawa arterial road based on the current city Transportation Master Plan as approved 2003[1]. Ottawa treats arterials as second only to city freeways [2]. Trim Road is identified as an arterial road on the plan's Urban Road Network map [3] PDF) (as is Bank Street). And it's the eastern terminus of Ottawa's biggest bus route (95). The article was updated to indicate these notability items. Dl2000 03:36, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
• Comment being a stop on a bus route is hardly sufficient notability. Proto::type 09:38, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Important arterial road. Wikipedia has thousands of such articles. Skeezix1000 12:18, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
• keep. Arterial road meets all standards. Unfocused 01:17, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.