Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Transnational Radical Party
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep, but clean up. Davewild (talk) 22:31, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Transnational Radical Party
This article does not cite references to back up its assertion of notability or its claims of membership, does not cite official participation in any governing body, provide any verification of 'affiliation' with the United Nations and on the talk page is an allegation that the article is lifted largely intact from the website of the organisation. Problem tags are generally old, no active discussion on the talk page indicating likelihood of revision/improvement. AvruchTalk 15:02, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- Keep I have just added the information for its ECOSOC status which is legitimate (note that (only) 139 organizations have such a status). Moreover I would advocate keeping this article, the history of Radicalism in Italy is very confusing and this article is necessary to explain the difference between the Radical Party, TRP and the current Italian Radicals. C mon (talk) 21:47, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- Keep It is a transnational party with elected members in several European parliaments, as well as the continuation of the Italian Radical Party and a non governamental organization. It is strange to delete the article of TRP some days after it succeded in its major goal: the moratorium of capital punishment through the UN Assembly. --Checco (talk) 22:05, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Can you provide citations to either assertion? i.e. evidence that elected MPs list this as their party affilitation, articles by news organizations attributing a resolution in the UNGA to efforts by TRP? Note that the UN can't create a world moratorium and doesn't itself execute criminals (aside from the ICC, potentially), its resolutions in this area are generally non-binding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Avruch (talk • contribs) 22:58, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- It is not binding, but that was the major goal of PRT, which is represented in the Italian government by Minister Emma Bonino and in Parliament by many MPs (there is a list on the TRP website somewhere, including those not from Italy, see for instance this), among which those organized in the Italian Radicals. Maybe you are not aware of the history of the Radical Party in Italy, which was transformed in PRT in 1989. Then Italian Radicals organized themselves in several lists (Lista Pannella, Lista Bonino...) and finally in the Italian Radicals. As the PRT is a transnational party functioning as a NGO, also members of other parties, such as Forza Italia, the Democratic Party, the Greens... --Checco (talk) 23:07, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- The article is a mess, but this does not mean that PRT does not deserve an article. --Checco (talk) 23:12, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- Can you provide citations to either assertion? i.e. evidence that elected MPs list this as their party affilitation, articles by news organizations attributing a resolution in the UNGA to efforts by TRP? Note that the UN can't create a world moratorium and doesn't itself execute criminals (aside from the ICC, potentially), its resolutions in this area are generally non-binding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Avruch (talk • contribs) 22:58, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- Keep per C_mon, certainly a notable subject. Refs have been fixed. —Nightstallion 13:17, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.