Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Toy Meets Girl
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Merge and redirect to episode list. Xoloz 13:27, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Toy Meets Girl
There doesn't appear to be anything "out of universe" or any significant coverage by secondary sources. Considering Robot Chicken episodes don't have plots, there's nothing that can be merged or summarized elsewhere. 17Drew 07:20, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Nomination extended - There is no point in actioning just this article - there are 44 articles linked from List of Robot Chicken episodes, all in the same format. I am therefore, on procedural grounds, extending the AfD to all 44 articles and relisting to enable editors to take a view on this broader nomination. At the moment, the consensus is for merge/redirect but the only mergeable content appears to be the images. I am neutral on the nomination. TerriersFan 21:14, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- Merge This appears to open up a whole world of mass deletion for Robot Chicken episodes which would doubtless get messy and ruffle a number of feathers (no pun intended). As a body of work (in the loose sense) there is an argument that the series be recorded for posterity but I am not sure that individual episodes warrant quite such extensive articles. It's controversial but I would suggest a composite semi-detailed list of episodes as used on more prominant TV articles such as List of Deadwood episodes or List of The Sopranos episodesDick G 08:10, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- Episodes of Deadwood or The Sopranoes have plots. Episodes of Robot Chicken are just brief skits, often only several seconds, with no overarching plot to be summarized. There's nothing that can reasonably be merged. 17Drew 08:13, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- Arguably you don't need an overarching plot for a summary. A notable skit - e.g. celebrity or contemporary news reference, might justify a line or two of content. Agree it's not necessarily going to result in a stellar article but am wary of deleting an extensive set of articles on the same criteria per the above nomination.Dick G 08:33, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- The fact that it's overarching is the whole reason that we have plot summaries. According to Wikipedia:Television episodes, "The only purpose of plot summaries is to provide context for the rest of the information." The brief plot summaries in lists of episodes are there to show how that episodes fits in the entire series' storyline. The fact that Toy Meets Girl had a skit about old toy lines, however, has no impact on anything in the fictional world of the series or anything in the real world. The information contained at List of Robot Chicken episodes is enough information to summarize the episode, arguably more than enough. 17Drew 08:42, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- I understand your concern. You obviously feel stronger about it than I do but it wouldn't be an AfD debate if there wasn't some sort of dissenting voice... Dick G 08:48, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- The fact that it's overarching is the whole reason that we have plot summaries. According to Wikipedia:Television episodes, "The only purpose of plot summaries is to provide context for the rest of the information." The brief plot summaries in lists of episodes are there to show how that episodes fits in the entire series' storyline. The fact that Toy Meets Girl had a skit about old toy lines, however, has no impact on anything in the fictional world of the series or anything in the real world. The information contained at List of Robot Chicken episodes is enough information to summarize the episode, arguably more than enough. 17Drew 08:42, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- Arguably you don't need an overarching plot for a summary. A notable skit - e.g. celebrity or contemporary news reference, might justify a line or two of content. Agree it's not necessarily going to result in a stellar article but am wary of deleting an extensive set of articles on the same criteria per the above nomination.Dick G 08:33, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- Episodes of Deadwood or The Sopranoes have plots. Episodes of Robot Chicken are just brief skits, often only several seconds, with no overarching plot to be summarized. There's nothing that can reasonably be merged. 17Drew 08:13, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Delete and redirect - To the List of Robot Chicken Episodes, as hillarious as they may seem RC episodes lack any order, a user that isn't familiar with the subject would be freaked to read a plot that begins with Roddy Piper's skirt blowing up in the air and culminating with What a Twist, sorry but the program's format just doesn'r really allow for an encyclopedic entry. - Caribbean~H.Q. 10:17, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - Let this page stay, this and other episode pages are the only pages that tell who plays who. Rtkat3 (talk) 1:34, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- See WP:NOT#DIRECTORY. Plus, "if an article topic has no reliable, third-party sources, Wikipedia should not have an article on it." 17Drew 19:44, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- Delete article clearly fails WP:EPISODE as there is no notability for this episode Corpx 00:34, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to List of Robot Chicken episodes. WP:EPISODE says nothing about deleting articles, rather it says "If the article(s) contain little content, consider merging or redirecting them into another article (e.g. an article about the show itself, an article that is a list of episodes of the show, or an article that summarizes the plot for one season of the show)." DHowell 02:31, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect per DHowell and WP:EPISODE. Also per WP:EPISODE, if sources can be found supporting notability for this episode (or any of the sketches in it), the article can be kept. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:25, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
- Delete as per nom. Harlowraman 23:33, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to List of Robot Chicken episodes per WP:EPISODE --Shruti14 t c s 18:35, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TerriersFan 21:15, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- Comment - please note that this article has been relisted to allow editors to take into account the extension of the nomination. TerriersFan 21:20, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- Redirect - Peregrine Fisher 17:16, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
- Merge per DHowell, Josiah Rowe and WP:EPISODE. Episodes for which external notability can be shown could be kept as separate articles. EdJohnston 00:03, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
