Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Touch My Body

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Kurykh 03:19, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Touch My Body

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An article about a 'rumoured single' with 'no confirmation that this will be the first single'. Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. Kurt Shaped Box (talk) 21:04, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

• Um, keep? I read the citations in the article and they seem to confirm that the single will be there. They even ranked it 6/10. One is in German, but it was easy enough to figure out without translating. I didn't see you nom based on wp:rs or wp:v, so not sure how you stand on the quality of the citations. Pharmboy (talk) 23:39, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Change to delete After careful thought and consideration, I realize that even if it is the first single, that doesn't mean it will chart. Too early to tell if it really is notable outside the album listing. Change to Delete. Pharmboy (talk) 01:04, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

• Keep We'll see in just a week if this will be the single or not. The sources seem to suggest so. ― LADY GALAXY 01:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
• Keep per the sources. Thankyoubaby (talk) 02:06, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete per policy at WP:MUSIC (I would note to the closer of this AfD that the above keep votes do not address this policy). Quite possibly this will be the first single, but the article acknowledges that this is not known and I don't see sources that say definitively otherwise. Things change quickly in the music biz. If this is never a single, but merely an album track, it does not warrant an article. Per our notability policies for music, "Most songs do not merit an article...Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts, that have won significant awards or honors or that have been performed independently by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable. A separate article is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article..." If this is indeed a single on the album it will certainly chart highly (given Carey's popularity) at which point it will warrant an article. We can then easily undelete or re-create the article, but for now Wikipedia is not a crystal ball very much applies. These kind of anticipatory articles need to be consistently discouraged.--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 13:00, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
• Keep I think we should give it a week or so. Her official site must release some information about the single by the time it's allegedly going to be released. If there is no news from very reliable websites, i.e. her official website, then I think you can nominate it for AfD again. But let it wait a week or two first. — Cuyler91093 - Contributions 00:52, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Comment. Again, this is not a policy-based rationale. We could take a "wait and see" approach (whether for a week or 3 months) with any number of supposed future singles, supposed movies which will commence shooting soon, etc.; but policy dictates that we wait until we have definite confirmation of artistic works like these before creating an article. It was a mistake to create an article on this in the first place which is the issue. Of course if an official announcement comes that this will be the first single prior to the AfD running its course then there would be no reason to delete. However as of now that does not seem to be the case.--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 01:05, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

• Delete To quote WP:MUSIC: "unreleased albums may not yet be notable without substantial coverage from reliable sources" Delicious carbuncle (talk) 20:53, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
• Keep Why delete it? After the single is realised it will come back, seems waist of time to delete it now..., if not going to be 1st single it can be deleted later anyway. Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:29, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Additional info. I checked and still find no information about this song being a single on the album, much less the first single. In fact this story says the first single will be the title track "That Chick." The album itself is scheduled to come out in April, so it could be months before we know whether or not this song will be released as a single. By our policies we should not be keeping this article in the meantime.--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 22:06, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

• Strong delete Article makes absolutely no claim of meeting WP:MUSIC. At best, this should be a paragraph of the That Chick article.--Fabrictramp (talk) 20:59, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.