Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Topps All-Star Rookie Rosters

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Personally, I see this as listcruft, but both sides have good arguments. Upmerging all the rosters to the main artile wouldn't be a bad idea as well, they're small enough where it's within reason. Wizardman 16:00, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Topps All-Star Rookie Rosters and related articles

Very trivial info on who were on who were considered as Topps best rookies per year, borderline WP:OR here, as a person can look at the small little baseball trophy on the card and create an article based on that. Not considered as a major award and no sources to indicate any notabilty. Adding the indiviual years articles as well. Delete All Jaranda wat's sup Sports! 01:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of baseball-related deletions. —Truest blue 21:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete all - I will have to assume that the topic is NN, seeing as the article doesn't even explain properly what the Topps All-Stars are. Is it a baseball team? A baseball card tournament? I have no idea - It is obviously OR, NN and in any case, the individual team articles need to go - they're both trivial and pointless. Delete... Spawn Man 01:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
    • It's explained in Topps All-Star Rookie Teams which should be tossed in here as well. Jaranda wat's sup Sports! 02:12, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
      • Oh, well definitely delete then - You might want to set up the AfD properly Jaranda; the log links etc are missing. Cheers, Spawn Man 02:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Yea I need someone to update my monobook for that, I'm horrible with them. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup Sports! 02:27, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Didn't you people ever collect baseball cards? I'm amazed that people who know nothing about a topic feel qualified to vote on if it should be deleted or not. This is an annual award voted on by major league managers. See THIS. And it is reported and commented on each year by third party sources (SEE FOR EXAMPLE) so it is verifiable. Kinston eagle 11:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
    • I collected baseball cards since I was five, and have every Topps set since 1972 and most of the 50s and 60s set half completed. So I likely know more about baseball cards than anyone else here on wikipedia. There is nothing special about it, and about.com is far from a WP:RS Jaranda wat's sup Sports! 19:25, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, and keep the information about the various years' teams, although they should be merged into one article. PKT 12:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Main Article, Merge the years All the teams should be consolidated into one main article. Doesn't need a separate article for all the different all-star years, that can all be covered in one if done properly. However, I feel that the Topps rookie teams are notable and worth having an article on. Spanneraol 13:34, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, this is an annual award voted on by MLB managers and is similar in nature to the Silver Sluggers Team except that it is restricted to rookies. It's recognized and announced by MLB the same as MVPs, Cy Youngs, Managers of the Year, Rookies of the Year and Silver Sluggers. --Sanfranman59 16:26, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Nope it's a promotional from Topps for rookies that the managers vote on, far from related to those awards. I know my cards. Jaranda wat's sup Sports! 19:25, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
      • The fact that it's promotional is irrelevant. What's next? Are you going to suggest that the Gold Glove Award is not notable because it's sponsored by Rawlings, or that stadiums are not notable because they are sponsored by corporations? Kinston eagle 19:53, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
          • Being promotional doesn't mean it isn't notable. These things receive lots of coverage in reliable sources. Spanneraol 21:12, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
          • It's not an official MLB award I mean. Jaranda wat's sup Sports! 01:11, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom and WP:LISTCRUFT--Truest blue 21:06, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.