Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Top Gear caravan destruction

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The result was delete. AKRadecki^Speaketh 19:10, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Top Gear caravan destruction

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I have nothing against Top Gear, but I seriously doubt this needs an article to itself (notability for starters). Merge and redirect, perhaps? Angus Lepper^{(T, C, D)} 15:12, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete or Redirect, doesn't deserve its own article, has no specific independent references. --Eyrian 15:16, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
• Weak DeleteNeutral per lack of coverage for this segement. Corpx 15:36, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep (note possible bias, I am a significant contributor to this article) The Top Gear presenters' hatred of caravans is not only well known, but a running gag throughout the show, as such the destruction of them is a continuation of this theme. I have also added a ref to a new article where the BBC had to step in to defend Jeremy Clarkson & Top Gear from 500 complaints by British Caravanners. Improbcat 16:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

• Comment The caravan destruction is well known enough that it is used in articles abut the show, for example here:

So when May, a novice pilot not trained to fly at night, races Clarkson in a Bugatti Veyron through Europe for a feature, or the guys play ‘caravan conkers’, the question has to be asked, is this safe?

Improbcat 16:12, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

• I'm not sure if that article gives "significant coverage" for the segment. Wouldn't a section in the Top Gear about this segment suffice? Corpx 16:07, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

• How is an article about their caravan antics not "significant coverage" of said antics? Improbcat 16:14, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

• The article mentions what was done in one episode and does not talk about the segment as a whole. Corpx 16:20, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

• I'm confused. Are you saying I need to find articles that explicitly state that Top Gear wrecks caravans on a regular basis? Or that the Top Gear presenters often state a dislike/hate for caravans? Because the links to the various episode guides show they do regularly trash caravans, and if one were to watch the show their dislike of caravans would be pretty easy to see through presenter comments. For example in Jeremy Clarkson's Wikiquote entry there is this quote from the show "You know? Thats the nineteenth caravan we've destroyed on this progamme in 12 months.". Improbcat 17:05, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

"A caravan on Top Gear never lasts the full hour; they are usually blown up, crushed or set alight pretty quickly. ". Improbcat 17:15, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I mean, are there any mentions about the segment in general and not one incident that caused an uproar? Corpx 17:16, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

• I'm not sure what you mean by "segment", there isn't an official "Caravan destruction" segment of the show (unlike the "star in a reasonably priced car" or "cheap car challenges"), instead they are destroyed as part of some other bit. For example, when trying to show how tough a Toyota pickup is, they drop a caravan onto it from a crane. Improbcat 17:21, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

• Strong delete - put a sentence or two in the main article, that's it. --Orange Mike 20:48, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
• Merge - A paragraph in the main article on this should really suffice. Earl CG 14:04, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete though some details could be added to main article. Kayaker 23:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC).

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