Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tony Le-Nguyen

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep. Stifle (talk) 01:04, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tony Le-Nguyen

This is an autobiography. It was created by an IP October last year, but this seems to be a one-person IP,202.67.119.44 (talk · contribs) - all of its edits are to the work and productions of this chap. The other articles edited by this IP, was to credit the subject of the article as a "star" in the film Romper Stomper, and plug a play, Children of the Dragon (also up for deletion), directed by the subject of the article. The article is only substantially edited by Nghesi30 (talk · contribs) (meaning "artist30" in Vietnamese), who created an account this year, presumably to create other articles Aussie Bia Om, Chay Vong Vong, and Australian Vietnamese Youth Media- (all up for deletion). Nghesi30 then adds the subject to the list of prominent people at Vietnamese Australian and List of Vietnamese actors.

The reason I feel that Nghesi30 is Tony Le-Nguyen, is because he is challenged to explain a copyvio at Aussie Bia Om. Nghesi30 replies at Talk: Aussie Bia Om that he is the owner of Australian Vietnamese Youth Media and the copyright - meaning Nghesi30 claims to be Tony Le-Nguyen, and has been plugging himself on Vietnamese Australian and List of Vietnamese actors.

Judging by the IP addresses involved, 202.67.119.44 (talk · contribs), 58.178.155.38  (talk · contribs), 211.27.115.141 (talk · contribs), all of whose edits are to articles related to him, I think their edits are also autobiographical.

This person is probably barely notable, but because of autobio concerns, I am putting it here.ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! 02:17, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep. Has an IMDB entry, so notable enough for me. Autobiographies should be discouraged, and this one appears somewhat POV. I think blnguyen did the right thing by testing community consensus on this, but I see no reason to delete. Snottygobble 03:39, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. More or less agree with Snotty above, should have an NPOV tag up, not an AfD! michael talk 03:19, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
  • We don't know *for sure* its our good friend Tony, and it hardly matters. Wikipedia users themselves can tidy up the article from it's present form. michael talk 03:28, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
  • What parts of the current article currently aren't specifically based on factual descriptions. They all seem to lack so called "weasel words" for one. Mostly just events and dates so far. Ansell 04:02, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Very weak keep The appearances for which the subject has an IMDB profile do not, I think, confer notability; indeed, were those the sole basis on which notability rested, I would support "delete". Here, though, there seem to be enough other achievements to merit inclusion (barely). The article, per Bln, inter al., surely needs cleanup, but notability seems demonstrated. Joe 03:30, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Needs to be reworked as per NPOV policy, but its notability should override the initial vanity edits. Not AfD. Romper Stomper was and is a prominent Australian movie, lead actor should have representation. I would assume that factually his page is correct so far, needing sources though. Not sure about the policy for theatrical work, maybe newspaper reviews could be used as sources. Ansell 03:58, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak keep on notability grounds. Article needs tidying re WP:MOS: After the initial mention of any name, the person may be referred to by surname only. -- I@n ≡ talk 05:00, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep on the basis he has enough notability that his name might be searched for on Wiki. If this happens and there is no article it lets down Wiki as THE place to search. Tyrenius 05:12, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep but cleanup with a special eye for vanity. savidan(talk) (e@) 08:33, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Quite a notable actor. --Siva1979Talk to me 09:48, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, cleanup, NPOV the article as it reads like an autobiography, notable actor. --Terence Ong 11:32, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, notable actor, I mean he's appeared on Romper Stomper - huge movie that was. If Jimmy Wales came on here and wrote an autobiography on himself would you put the article up for deletion? The article may be a little vain but it's comprehensive at least. Rogerthat Talk 12:57, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete An IMDB entry is not good enough, as last week's Tavolta-relations-fest showed. I don't think his work meets the bar of notability. Fishhead64 21:33, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Comment Notability is not whether you personally have heard about something. The main movie that he played in, Romper Stomper, was a major australian hit. Its not like hes just a backyard actor. Ansell 01:17, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
According to IMDB, he's 13th billed on the cast list, which does NOT say "major role" to me, no matter how much you go on about what a major movie "Romper Stomper" was. To give some idea, some random 13th-billed parts from some movies:
Not notable actors, not notable roles (note that for the first two, the articles are NOT for the two actors in question).
  • Delete Nine roles on IMDB don't say "notable" to me. --Calton | Talk 16:51, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep but needs an NPOV tag. Wstaffor 21:49, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.