Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tommy Valentine

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete both. No objection if this is taken to DRV. Luna Santin 04:21, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tommy Valentine

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Two major concerns with this article:

  1. I feel that the subject cannot be considered inherently notable due to a limited range of success. In addition, there are not multiple nontrivial references. The onlineathens site is apparently the only non-personal source that actually links to any information at the moment (I'm assuming - I can't access it)
  2. The current article was written over an already existing article on a fictional footballer, which several pages still link to. Rampart 15:41, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment If the consensus is that this rapper is not notable, then the article should be reverted to the version immediately prior to User:TommyValentine taking it upon himself to rewrite the page to be about himself (stating in the edit summary and on the talk page that he is the "best known" and "correct" Tommy Valentine) and the merits of the other Tommy considered separately, otherwise we'll essentially be losing two completely separate articles off the back of just one AfD. If the rapper is deemed notable then the article with this name should still be reverted and the rapper's article should be moved to a different name, say Tommy Valentine (rapper), as should have been done when it was first created. Hope all that made sense!!!! ChrisTheDude 11:16, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Smite with great vengeance. One does not abuse one's editorial privileges by usurping an article about someone with the same (i.e. your) name. WP:COI is bad enough when you create the article. That said, the prior article is a bit dubious under WP:FICT, and the blue links on Dream Team Characters could probably use some culling. --Dhartung | Talk 16:32, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Compare, just for educational purposes, with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Kendall. Clinton's lawyer during impeachment should have an article, and did. It was overwritten with one about a negligibly notable academic by the same name, which was then AFD'd (until my WP:HEY). This is barely one step up (if that) from vandalism, because it deletes content. --Dhartung | Talk 16:43, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
  • For curiosity's sake, this is the version of the aricle before it was "hijacked" (I use that word very loosely). No view on deletion of either topic. -- saberwyn 22:23, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per Dhartung. JuJube 04:12, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - this search doesn't mention either of the rivals, accordingly I doubt either is sufficiently notable. Addhoc 18:23, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.