Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tokitae

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was KEEP. Robert T | @ | C 15:50, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tokitae Lolita (orca)

Completely unencyclopediac. The subject is of dubious notablity anyway, and the article is a humiliation to Wikipedia. Just read the article, and tell me if that looks salvageable. Matt Yeager 01:45, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

  • Oh yes, and delete as well. Matt Yeager 06:52, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Keep. Nice rewrite of the article. Still needs a bit of work, but definitely not worth deleting now. Matt Yeager 05:08, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep Weak delete It's been on cleanup since September, and the topic is marginal... I get 222 Google hits for Tokitae +orca. If anybody cares enough to do a decent cleanup job, go ahead, and I'll consider revising my vote (send me a talkpage message). Edit weak keep as rewritten. Definitely a whole lot better, though the subject matter is still somewhat marginal... a whale just doesn't have the sort of life or activities that a good biography can be written about. Perhaps a merge into the seaquarium article or an orca article is best. Still, congratulations to Zeimusu for cleaning the uncleanable. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 14:47, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Orca in Miami Seaquarium. I don't know whether we have notability guidelines for animals but I doubt she meets them at present. Article is of poor quality. Keep. Kudos to Zeimusu for writing the article. Should me moved to Lolita (orca) as that ph rase gets 86,700 Google hits see [1].

Capitalistroadster 02:32, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

  • Delete, I came across the article a month ago, but I didn't bring it to AfD because I thought people would feel badly about deleting it. They're suckers for orca interest stories. -- Kjkolb 04:39, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep could be cleaned up I am willing to try..Dakota ? e 04:56, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Looking at the image results from Google, it must a notable orca... why not. Expand. -- WB 06:51, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, this thing is dripping with pathos and is utterly insipid. --Agamemnon2 08:46, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. This article is unencyclopaedic and anthropomorphic. I would support a merge and redirect if there were an article on Miami Seaquarium, but there isn't. Or maybe someone could turn this into something like protests about captive marine mammals or something? But as-is it reads like Free Willy. - Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] :: AfD? 12:00, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Switch to keep as currently written and suggest move to Miami Seaquarium if there is anything else notable about the place. - Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] :: AfD? 19:24, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

*delete notability noy restablished by article, advertisement for a kind of cause, unsalvagable. --Isolani 12:20, 5 November 2005 (UTC) I change my vote to weak keep upon rewrite --Isolani 15:08, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

  • delete not notable Avalon 12:39, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep Rewritten from scratch. The "Free Willy" tale has been entirly removed. This is the oldest captive orca and the second longest in captivity. There have been protests which make her notable. I get 496,000 google hits for "Lolita whale miami tank". There is a strong case for a page move to Lolita (orca) or something. Zeimusu | Talk page 14:30, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep as now rewritten, a good article, but the Lolita link needs to be fixed as it now goes to an article about the novel FRS 16:41, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak keep, this is not a very notable Orca, but I see nothing wrong with the article (other than the Lolita link). If someone writes an article about the Miami Seaqurium, this might be merged there. — JIP | Talk 18:13, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete We99 18:34, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep and strongly redirect to Lolita (whale). This have been in the local news alot here in Miami. Notable whale --JAranda | watz sup 01:42, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
    • Moved it to Lolita (orca) --JAranda | watz sup 01:46, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep as rewritten. HGB 23:11, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Verifiable and notable enough. —Cleared as filed. 12:39, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.