Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tobias McGriff

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 09:21, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tobias McGriff

Author deleted an attempt at a speedy. Essentially a vanity(I forget what the new euphemism is) article for a non-notable personage, with a lot of verbiage stating that the author is an unpublished author, and webmaster of a dead website and is now a tour guide. Author is Tmcgriff--Aim Here 04:53, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

It seems that Wikipedia states deleting an attempt at a speedy is perfectly permissable so why is that an issue? The author of this article is also writing a book about pioneers of spirit communication and chose to register and enter an article about tobias mcgriff bc he is a relevant figure to this. Especially in the southeastern United States. The websites listed are merely matters of fact not an encouragement to visit. I suppose you would say that it was an attempt to gather followers if the sites did work though wouldnt you? Additionally, I am not sure why the author did not state some of the other works of Tobias McGriff but he is a multiple published author in online articles and magazines. I say you may want to delete specific referneces to websites and book names but the subject matter is relevant and to say that someone is a non-notable personage is very subjective. Someone that comes to wikipedid to research EVP would probably ver well be familiar with Mr. McGriff. I am. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdbuyers (talk • contribs)

Note: The above comment is the only contribution by what appears to be a single-purpose account. --Dhartung | Talk 08:05, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Actually, it's not acceptable to delete speedy templates. Prod is okay, but speedies must be contested with the {{hangon}} template. Danny Lilithborne 05:16, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment There's two ghits for Tobias McGriff (a web forum posting), and NOTHING in the Library of Congress authored under that name. FWIW, the User:Jdbuyers is a brand new nick. WP:FAITH compels me to not accuse anyone of sockpuppetry at this early stage, but it does look suspicious. --Aim Here 05:52, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Unremarkable person, no claim of notability. Rockpocket 07:30, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, fails WP:BIO criteria. --Dhartung | Talk 08:05, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Vanity. -- RHaworth 08:53, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

I am Tobias McGriff and I say DELETE as well. I appreciate the emails I got yesterday telling me of this debate taking place here on Wikipedia (which prompted me to create an account today)from some folks who are fans of the work SPC is doing and I do believe a local writer (original poster) and a couple of other recruited people signed up in order to post positive comments on my behalf (to confim the above users post about Jdbuyers being a new user). However, there are historical inaccuracies in the "bio" part of this article, the websites and works given are inaccurate, and the person who posted it used my last name as part of their Wikipedia sign up name which seems a little odd-although I think Wikipedia is a pretty good site I do not want an entry in it about myself or SPC regardless of the noteworthiness or remarkability. Thanks to all. -Tobias. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TobiasMc (talk • contribs) 14:33, 1 November 2006

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.