Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tipsy (soap opera)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete taking into account possible sock-puppetry and the new-ness of the accounts/IPs that wanted to keep. W.marsh 00:44, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tipsy (soap opera)

Delete. Does not meet WP:WEB. Furthermore, Wikipedia is not for things made up in school (from the article: "It started in 2003 as an ongoing joke between several students about how their lives were similar to the plotlines of a soap opera"). Article previously prod'ed; tag removed by anon with comment "This page is not an advertisment for Tipsy. The factual detail is accurate, and it is not 'non-notable' as Tipsy has a significant following due to being a regular feature in a popular publication." ... discospinster _talk 19:39, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete no assertion of notability, appears the huge article was copy and pasted from a website due to the mutated formatting.--Andeh 21:30, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

The 'not for things made up in school' principle has been taken out of context. Tipsy should not be compared to yo-yo crazes and the like. Simply, some aspects of school life provided the creative inspiration for Tipsy, but it was no more 'made up in school' than Harry Potter or Malory Towers. Admittedly, the wording of the article is misleading, suggesting that the actual soap opera began as a joke, rather than the concept behind it. There could be case for reducing the size of the article as it is certainly quite lengthy, but not for its deletion as Tipsy is a fairly well-known and significant soap opera. A recent edit does assert its notability. The 'episode guide' was in all likelihood copy and pasted, as Andypandy suggests - not, however, from a website, but from Tom Lane's original notes that he wrote while planning plot outlines and subsequently sent to various local media establishments for their use. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.80.113 (talk • contribs)

• Strong delete, article is horribly written and fails WP:WEB. Fails the Google test miserably (no relevant hits). Furthermore, this DOES fail WP:NFT: "It started in 2003 as an ongoing joke between several students about how their lives were similar to the plotlines of a soap opera." Sounds like something made up in school one day to me. --Coredesat 23:35, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Can I suggest that as Tipsy is an INTERNET BASED soap-opera, it quite clearly will come up with relevant hits? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.80.113 (talk • contribs)

Comment Well, it didn't. Only relevant hit was the article. The article doesn't even include a link to where this series may be found, either. --Coredesat 00:27, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

• Do not delete In regard to the notability of the soap, I can confirm, as a resident of west London, that 'Tipsy' has caused a large stir locally, through word of mouth more than anything else. The gung-ho deletists need to remember that it is difficult to determine the notability of local matters from afar, and as most wikipedia regulars know, the google test is not foolproof. The 'made up in school' debate seems irrelevant - the Beatles originated from a group of school friends, but I'm sure we all agree they deserve an entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.80.113 (talk • contribs)

• Keep Verifiable and notable. Does pass WP:WEB. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brazil9 32 (talk • contribs)

Comment. The preceding user's only contribution is to this AfD. ... discospinster _talk 18:46, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

• Comment/keep It does have a link for the series. Other internet sites confirm the information. Article should perhaps be tidied up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiddd (talk • contribs)

Comment. The preceding user's only contributions are to this AfD and to Newland house school. ... discospinster _talk 18:46, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

• Keep Correct information. Just about passes WP:WEB. It is not 'horribly written'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lagerback999 (talk • contribs)
• Strong Keep The need for consistancy demands the inclusion of this article - other lesser known fictional series have large articles. Moreover, DiscoSpinster is renowned for hasty deletion suggestions. --User:Bobyeh

Comment. Really? I had no idea I was known for anything. P.S.: Bobyeh's other edits are suspiciously similar to those of Lagerback999 (i.e. short sentences - usually non-sequiturs - added to random articles). ... discospinster _talk 23:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

• Keep Its fairly clear that a soap with 500 episodes of information this does exist. I can understand why someone in Canada might not be able to appreciate quite how popular a soap is within a certain region of the Uk but it has certainly progressed beyond any notion of being just a school joke. I beleive that most episodes of the soap were viewed via a direct line to the host server which was only available for short periods of time. It was notoriously difficult to watch episodes at the time and it is unsurprising that they are hard to come across now. However, I noticed that the article actually now has a link to the a site withe several transcripts with almost 40,000 words which provides pretty good evidence. (The Next Biggish Thing 12:35, 26 June 2006 (UTC))
• Delete "tom-lane tipsy soap-opera" gets one ghit, this article,so it misses WP:WEB by miles but not WP:NFT. Paint me cynical, but I reckon it's a hoax. Angus McLellan (Talk) 15:52, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Comment: Tipsy's success continues to grow and, as a recent edit shows, it is currently in negotiations with a national network for screening. Even if it didn't pass WP:WEB before, it certainly does now.

Comment I'm new to Wikipedia so can someone explain to me why you would delete an entry on a soap. I thought they were going to make it into a podcast.--Foofer Monkey 14:32, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.