Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tinsel and Marzipan

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

[edit] Tinsel and Marzipan

The result was keep: Nomination withdrawn. Heimstern Läufer 02:39, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Tinsel and Marzipan (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

I don't think am not sure if this album is notable: Made by what appears to be a non-notable group and few Google hits. Heimstern Läufer 22:00, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

It's worth an inclusion for what is mentioned on the internet. I don't think Wikipedia articles should be based on the number of Google hits a topic has. It is mentioned on other notable websites, which I have included as external links. The single charted in the Irish Top 40 too. Also I notice the person who has nominated this article for deletion is from California and therefore is presumably not Irish. There are possibly numerous articles I could find from California which have little relevance to me but I would not try to delete them as I know they may be relevant to someone elsewhere. Wikipedia is a worldwide project, is it not? Shouldn't it have articles that are relevant to a certain country even if not on a large international scale? Strong Keep. --Candlewicke Consortiums Limited 22:14, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Let me put this a different way: Is there anything to suggest that this album qualifies under WP:MUSIC? I realise criteria for including albums are controversial at this time, but I'm having a hard time finding anything to show that either the album or its creators are notable. Heimstern Läufer 22:18, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

None of the external links provided are from notable websites- in fact, they are all promotional. Unless the claim of reaching the Irish charts can be sourced, this is just another non-notable album from a non-notable band. Delete. -- Kicking222 22:19, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

I can source it. Give me a mo. --Candlewicke Consortiums Limited 22:21, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

23 --Candlewicke Consortiums Limited 22:22, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Why are all those who oppose this article from America? Aren't there any Irish to offer an opinion? --86.40.99.82 23:05, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Keep Tinsel And Marzipan is a charted hit on IRMA, the Irish Recorded Music Association, as of the week ending on December 21 2006 and is theofore notable under WP:MUSIC. P.S. I'm from California Laganojunior 00:42, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

• (Changed to) keep, as the single's position on the national charts is now properly sourced. -- Kicking222 01:21, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
• Well, it certainly looks a lot better now... I do wish there were clearer guidelines for albums at WP:MUSIC. Here's my only real concern with the current assertion of notability: being ranked on the charts could turn out to be a passing phenomenon that is forgotten soon. (I'd say this if it were on the charts in the USA, too; it's not just because I'm not in Ireland.) But in the absence of clear guidelines on this, I'm just going to go neutral on this one. Heimstern Läufer 03:50, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. It was only just under development yesterday, I hadn't time to finish it immediately. --Candlewicke Consortiums Limited 12:01, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Is it possible to remove the deletion notice now or would anyone object? --Candlewicke Consortiums Limited 12:03, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the idea that a song ranking on the charts may soon lose any notability. Likewise there are many notable songs and bands who have not ranked in the charts. It seems an unfair policy that perfectly decent songs should be disregarded simply for not appearing there. --Candlewicke Consortiums Limited 12:09, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.