Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tina Barta

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Redirect and Keep. Several of these individuals had varying levels of "notability" but most of them fall well short of WP:BIO. Despite what one contributor asserted below, notability isn't merely determined by IMDB credits. Many of these articles contain WP:BLP violations and original research as well. Taking out the unsourced personal info, most of these articles are just reduced to a list of shows these individuals appeared in. I note that there is a consensus to merge these, but most of the logical target articles are not currently laid out in such a way that there is a logical place to merge the usable information from these articles. For this reason I am enacting a series of redirects here with comment that if someone wants to rework the target articles to include a brief biographical blurb about the participants, the information on them will still exist in the page history. The lone keep here is Mary Beth Decker who has a (very slight) claim of notability outside this series of interrelated television shows, making her a subtly different case. It's not a strong claim towards WP:BIO and someone may feel it necessary to boldly redirect this article as well, but for now I will leave it intact.--Isotope23 14:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tina Barta

Tina Barta (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Wes Bergmann (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Kina Dean (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Mary Beth Decker (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Katie Doyle (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Brad Fiorenza (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Robin Hibbard (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Ibis Nieves (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Articles about reality stars who've done nothing notable outside of MTV Irk_(talk) 17:01, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

• Merge all to the series of the show they appeared in. Not notable enough to have their own articles. Stifle (talk) 19:49, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
• Merge as appropriate and redirect. No apparent notability outside the shows. ShadowHalo 04:21, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and actresses-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 12:25, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep are we running out of disk space? I thought notability was established by credits in IMDB? Since when do we change the rules when the credits happen to be based on a specific show? They shouldn't be merged, because it would be nice to learn about the contestants in an non-bloated, objective way. And FYI, Robin Hibbard has done more than Real World, so.... I assert my KEEP 72.145.84.130 16:53, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Again, as I read the notability standards, I fail to see why this cannot qualify. The articles are required to be of interest to more than a few people. More than a few people watch MTV. 72.145.84.130 20:24, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

• Keep, well sort of. The problem with this list is it lumps people like Robin Hibbard and Brad Fiorenza who have done things outside the show and are more popular and have a wider fanbase, with people like Ibis Nieves who isn't that famous by Real World fan standards. I say keep based on the argument above, but I think each person should stand in their own merit or lack there of. 65.83.231.100 18:52, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, They are of interest on a show or series of shows that are long running. If this was a 1 shot reality show that might be different bet RW/RR has been around a long time. Mtxchevy 17:54, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Something to consider. I do not use this webpage much, but my teenage son does. I think notability is relative. Many American entertainers are unknown in Europe and vice versa. I do not like or watch porn, so any porn stars are unknown and thus unnotable to me. Ditto for MTV. However my son loves the shows these performers are on and can't get enough. So if I can vote, I think you guys should keep the pages. Hey, it can't hurt any worse than Paris Hilton. --Tori

• Keep Mary Beth Decker, Merge the rest - MBD is worth a keep on the Playboy citation, the rest are not. TerriersFan 22:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.