Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Timar

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. El_C 13:33, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Timar

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Contested speedy. From the opening -This essay aims to outline- right through the numerous opinions until we reach the closing -Written by Deniz Gencturk- this is pure original research Nuttah68 19:09, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

• Keep but rewrite, wikify, and cite sources properly. This is a research paper, but it's not WP:OR. It did not make up the term "timar"; it cites 9 (non-English, albeit) secondary sources. It appears that this is a previously-known term for this form of land tenure. Mishatx 20:02, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep From WP:OR, Original research is a term used in Wikipedia to refer to material that has not been published by a reliable source. This isn't original research as somebody just copy-pasted their term paper (which includes, assumably, reliable sources) and called it an article. Also, the article as it is presently was recently edited to include Mr. Gencturk's homework assignment; look at the history and you'll find a much briefer and more encyclopedic description of Timar. I'm reverting the page to that version until the additional information added can be appropriately reworded and wikified. JGardner 21:43, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep now that the term-paper side of things has been deleted. The term is (as other users have pointed out) an accurate one and one which is often used for the land tenure system of the Ottoman Empire. Yes, a longer article that isn't a term paper would be just lovely, but this version is a good start. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:12, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep. Don't understand this nomination. Subject of obvious historical importance, and if someone adds some unsourced statements or original research, that can be reverted or cleaned up. Exists in other-language Wikipedias (German, a small stub in French, a largish article in Turkish obviously). Also many articles link here; check for instance Timariot, or Military of the Ottoman Empire. --Gabriel Knight 01:58, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep In it's current form, it looks useful. Now I know what a Timar is. Robovski 05:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. It is understandable why this was originally nominated, but I think its time to withdraw the nomination now that those issues have been rectified. RFerreira 05:47, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.